Green Restructures Contract [Chronicle]

[Keith]

Verrrrrrrry interesting...

Green's base salary will be 1.8 million, which frees up 2 million in salary-cap dollars.

To get Green to agree to redo his deal, the Texans are giving him $200,000 for every game in which he's active this season, starting with the second game of the year. That means Green can make three million if he stay's healthy for every game. ...

The last two years of Green's contract were not changed. In 2009, he has a 4.8 million base and $500,000 bonus. In 2010, he has a 4.3 million base and a $500,000 bonus.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/5970987.html

Green was obviously threatened with being cut, and the Texans were obviously threatened with having a squad of RBs without even a half season's worth of starting experience combined.

Bolded part is mine... makes me think Green is out for Week 1...?

[painekiller]

Sorry guys he is not going anywhere now. At least not this year, next year is a different story...

[Arky]

Originally Posted by Keith

.. makes me think Green is out for Week 1...?

Maybe not "out" but perhaps they are saying, "OK, we'll give you week 1 but you gotta earn it after that".

Sounds like he's going to be game-by-game and year-by-year. They probably didn't even do the math for 2009-2010 because (like many of us) they don't think he'll make it. I know I'll be surprised if he makes any type of worthwhile contribution this year...

[mussop]

Originally Posted by Arky

Maybe not "out" but perhaps they are saying, "OK, we'll give you week 1 but you gotta earn it after that".

Sounds like he's going to be game-by-game and year-by-year. They probably didn't even do the math for 2009-2010 because (like many of us) they don't think he'll make it. I know I'll be surprised if he makes any type of worthwhile contribution this year...

It must of been a mistake. Its been changed.


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...t/5971192.html

Green, who hasn’t played since suffering a groin injury on the first play of preseason against Denver, is expected to start the first regular-season game at Pittsburgh.

[Arky]

Originally Posted by mussop

Green, who hasn’t played since suffering a groin injury on the first play of preseason against Denver, is expected to start the first regular-season game at Pittsburgh.

Right. He's going to play against Pittsburgh. From McClain's blog:

Green has assured Smith, coach Gary Kubiak and everyone who'll listen that he'll be ready to go when the Texans start the season at Pittsburgh.

http://blogs.chron.com/nfl/2008/08/g...s_fair_to.html

[KJ3]

sweet. i guess if you can't play a whole year then just get paid per game? see ya later ahman, next year you're getting cut.

who is next? weaver or greenwood?

[Keith]

Originally Posted by mussop

It must of been a mistake. Its been changed.

What a ****ing surprise. The Chronicle Sports team makes another error.

I was ready for Green to go, but I still think he gives the Texans their best chance to win IF he's healthy. I obviously like the financial aspects of the game, but I try not to get too worked up in the money since it isn't mine at the end of the day. If Green earns his pay, so be it.

Hopefully this doesn't mean the team is thinking of floating Darius Walker to the practice squad. With Jameel Cook gone though (and Jon Abbate is a scout teamer), I suppose that clears a roster spot to keep Taylor as the second fullback and maybe first down and shirt yardage backup to Green.

[Keith]

Originally Posted by KJ3

who is next? weaver or greenwood?

This convo is for another thread, but Weaver ought to be next, not Greenwood, assuming the team can stomach the dead money.

I had an article for the site on this worked up a couple days ago but haven't gotten around to posting it yet. Maybe this weekend. Anyway, it dealt with the cap aspects of saying goodbye to Weaver and Colvin.

[KJ3]

Originally Posted by Keith

What a ****ing surprise. The Chronicle Sports team makes another error.

i guess my hatred for the chronicle isn't alone? john mclame and the dick have too much bad writing for one paper to handle...

I was ready for Green to go, but I still think he gives the Texans their best chance to win IF he's healthy. If Green earns his pay, so be it.

two statements i could not agree more with. ethically there is no way kubiak can start ahman who hasn't played in the preseason without maybe his reputation taking the slightest of hits...but at the same time...who is better? slaton, if he can prove it.

Hopefully this doesn't mean the team is thinking of floating Darius Walker to the practice squad. With Jameel Cook gone though (and Jon Abbate is a scout teamer), I suppose that clears a roster spot to keep Taylor as the second fullback and maybe first down and shirt yardage backup to Green.

i don't think they can float him down...he's earned something more than practice squad to me. between him, slaton, and taylor he's really the only one who has done anything in a game, let alone looked decent. if it comes down to him or taylor i think i'm going with walker.

[Xetuoh1836]

So, he's scheduled to play in the Pittsburg game, yet the terms of the contract begin in the game against the Ravens?

In addition to his $1.8 million base, beginning with the second game — the home opener against Baltimore — Green will get $200,000 for every game in which he’s active.

I wonder why it effective game 2 and not the opener?

[RunninRaven]

Unless Slaton's turf toe is serious, in a way I halfway secretly hope Ahman is either great when he gets in the game, or completely terrible, because if he is great then I have no problem, the offense will look good. If he is terrible, then he won't last long before Slaton will take most, if not all, of his reps. But if Green is just sort of mediocre, then Kubiak might keep trotting him out there most of every game because he is the veteran and has the track record when Slaton could potentially be giving us more. I suppose on things like this I should just hope that Kubiak knows best and will play those that deserve it and can best help the team.

I just have this feeling that Slaton could be something special. Of course, I had the feeling about Jacoby last season as well.

[Mike]

KJ

Your hatred is not alone. RJ is a sad excuse for a writer. He does have a great job, when things go well, he praises (see all the early articles about Ed Wade and Tejada), then when it goes bad, then write a piece that rips everyone. Do that repeatedly for the Astros, Texans and Rockets when he is not salivating over VY and Mack and namedropping Bud Selig.

Johnny Mc - this is a family board so we will leave out anything about him and Anna-Meghan. I actually feel bad for her. He needs to push back from the buffet and mix in a few veggies.

to the matter at hand, good move for the Texans. Let's hope we can get through the season with Ahman playing 12 full games healthy. I would take that in a New York second. Good move my management freeing up some room on the cap, maybe there is a player(s) about to hit the breadline that can help us, and this $ makes it less tight on the cap.

[KJ3]

Originally Posted by Xetuoh1836

I wonder why it effective game 2 and not the opener?

obviously he'll be active for the first game. they probably just gave it up in the base salary, said here is for the first game up front and anything beyond that is earned.

clearly ahman knows that he is pressing the texans with his injury situations, i just hope that when he does line up he shows that he can still run instead of showing that the injuries have gotten the better of him.

Originally Posted by RunninRaven

Unless Slaton's turf toe is serious, in a way I halfway secretly hope Ahman is either great when he gets in the game, or completely terrible, because if he is great then I have no problem, the offense will look good. If he is terrible, then he won't last long before Slaton will take most, if not all, of his reps. But if Green is just sort of mediocre, then Kubiak might keep trotting him out there most of every game because he is the veteran and has the track record when Slaton could potentially be giving us more. I suppose on things like this I should just hope that Kubiak knows best and will play those that deserve it and can best help the team.

I just have this feeling that Slaton could be something special. Of course, I had the feeling about Jacoby last season as well.

i know it's semantics but when you're talking RB's something "special" is adrian peterson. steve slaton could be a good NFL back on a good team.

i don't think kubiak would allow shenanigans to go on concerning who is playing what position. i mean if slaton is better than green, he'll play.

MIKE (or really anybody) have you ever actually met someone who thinks they're worthy sports writers? aside from the awkward, seeping-through-the-radio inuendo of mchut and how dickie hates the teams he covers and loves ESPN's 24 hour analysis...is there actually any merit to the positions they hold anymore?

we should have our own forum dedicated to making fun of these two

[RunninRaven]

Originally Posted by KJ3

i know it's semantics but when you're talking RB's something "special" is adrian peterson. steve slaton could be a good NFL back on a good team.

Well, it is semantics. Maybe to you Adrian Peterson is the level you have to be at to be something special, but I was thinking more in terms of Brian Westbrook type ceiling, which compared to what we have put up with at RB in the 7 years the Texans have been here, is something special.

[papabear]

Originally Posted by KJ3

ethically there is no way kubiak can start ahman who hasn't played in the preseason without maybe his reputation taking the slightest of hits...but at the same time...who is better? slaton, if he can prove it.

The reason why Green will see time week one is his pass protection. It's something he has always done well and taken pride in. I say see time because even though he may start....I think slaton and/or Taylor see a fair bit of action, but Slaton is a rookie who has probably never been asked to do much blocking at any level. Pass pro. was a big issue for Taylor early on. It doesn't always get the pub, but with our history of high sack numbers and Scaub getting hurt it's something that I guarantee is on Kubiak's mind.

Pittsburgh should have a pretty good defense and they like to get after the QB. With the pressure the Cowboys were able to generate(so I've been told, still in Germany ) you can be sure they will have plenty of blitz packages ready.

[barrett]

plenty of RBs sit the preseason. They have very little to gain from preseason games in comparison to other positions. There is nothing wrong with a RB missing the preseason and then starting (that is why so many "hold out"/skip training camp). If a RB is in shape we could sign one off the street and he could be plugged in by pittsburgh. Football may be an intellectual game to varying degrees for the other 21 positions, but RB is about 99% instincts.

[cadams]

this is true, i think LT sits out the entire preseason.

[coloradodude]

Any RB who is a threat to run to endzone any and every carry is special. Slaton is definitely that kind of RB. He was that way in college. But turf toe certainly doesn't help.

Compare Chris Brown. Never was that kind of threat in college or the NFL.

But time will tell.

As far as the Green contract, good. Let's get this offensive machine running and then we can tweak it.

[KJ3]

Originally Posted by papabear

The reason why Green will see time week one is his pass protection. It's something he has always done well and taken pride in. I say see time because even though he may start....I think slaton and/or Taylor see a fair bit of action, but Slaton is a rookie who has probably never been asked to do much blocking at any level. Pass pro. was a big issue for Taylor early on. It doesn't always get the pub, but with our history of high sack numbers and Scaub getting hurt it's something that I guarantee is on Kubiak's mind.

if ahman is so good at pass protection why isn't he the 3rd down back?

Originally Posted by cadams

this is true, i think LT sits out the entire preseason.

um....let's not go comparing ladanian tomlinson to ahman green. two very, very different situations.

[cadams]

Originally Posted by KJ3

um....let's not go comparing ladanian tomlinson to ahman green. two very, very different situations.

you are too serious there. i was commenting on running backs in general.