Green Restructures Contract [Chronicle]

[KJ3]

Originally Posted by Keith

What a ****ing surprise. The Chronicle Sports team makes another error.

i guess my hatred for the chronicle isn't alone? john mclame and the dick have too much bad writing for one paper to handle...

I was ready for Green to go, but I still think he gives the Texans their best chance to win IF he's healthy. If Green earns his pay, so be it.

two statements i could not agree more with. ethically there is no way kubiak can start ahman who hasn't played in the preseason without maybe his reputation taking the slightest of hits...but at the same time...who is better? slaton, if he can prove it.

Hopefully this doesn't mean the team is thinking of floating Darius Walker to the practice squad. With Jameel Cook gone though (and Jon Abbate is a scout teamer), I suppose that clears a roster spot to keep Taylor as the second fullback and maybe first down and shirt yardage backup to Green.

i don't think they can float him down...he's earned something more than practice squad to me. between him, slaton, and taylor he's really the only one who has done anything in a game, let alone looked decent. if it comes down to him or taylor i think i'm going with walker.

[Xetuoh1836]

So, he's scheduled to play in the Pittsburg game, yet the terms of the contract begin in the game against the Ravens?

In addition to his $1.8 million base, beginning with the second game — the home opener against Baltimore — Green will get $200,000 for every game in which he’s active.

I wonder why it effective game 2 and not the opener?

[papabear]

Originally Posted by KJ3

ethically there is no way kubiak can start ahman who hasn't played in the preseason without maybe his reputation taking the slightest of hits...but at the same time...who is better? slaton, if he can prove it.

The reason why Green will see time week one is his pass protection. It's something he has always done well and taken pride in. I say see time because even though he may start....I think slaton and/or Taylor see a fair bit of action, but Slaton is a rookie who has probably never been asked to do much blocking at any level. Pass pro. was a big issue for Taylor early on. It doesn't always get the pub, but with our history of high sack numbers and Scaub getting hurt it's something that I guarantee is on Kubiak's mind.

Pittsburgh should have a pretty good defense and they like to get after the QB. With the pressure the Cowboys were able to generate(so I've been told, still in Germany ) you can be sure they will have plenty of blitz packages ready.

[barrett]

plenty of RBs sit the preseason. They have very little to gain from preseason games in comparison to other positions. There is nothing wrong with a RB missing the preseason and then starting (that is why so many "hold out"/skip training camp). If a RB is in shape we could sign one off the street and he could be plugged in by pittsburgh. Football may be an intellectual game to varying degrees for the other 21 positions, but RB is about 99% instincts.

[cadams]

this is true, i think LT sits out the entire preseason.

[coloradodude]

Any RB who is a threat to run to endzone any and every carry is special. Slaton is definitely that kind of RB. He was that way in college. But turf toe certainly doesn't help.

Compare Chris Brown. Never was that kind of threat in college or the NFL.

But time will tell.

As far as the Green contract, good. Let's get this offensive machine running and then we can tweak it.

[KJ3]

Originally Posted by papabear

The reason why Green will see time week one is his pass protection. It's something he has always done well and taken pride in. I say see time because even though he may start....I think slaton and/or Taylor see a fair bit of action, but Slaton is a rookie who has probably never been asked to do much blocking at any level. Pass pro. was a big issue for Taylor early on. It doesn't always get the pub, but with our history of high sack numbers and Scaub getting hurt it's something that I guarantee is on Kubiak's mind.

if ahman is so good at pass protection why isn't he the 3rd down back?

Originally Posted by cadams

this is true, i think LT sits out the entire preseason.

um....let's not go comparing ladanian tomlinson to ahman green. two very, very different situations.

[cadams]

Originally Posted by KJ3

um....let's not go comparing ladanian tomlinson to ahman green. two very, very different situations.

you are too serious there. i was commenting on running backs in general.

[KJ3]

oh...sorry...i kind of figured you were talking about LT.

[Keith]

Well, the Chronicle seems to still think the roster bonuses begin in Week 2, so maybe that's not a mistake after all...?

Regardless, something else from McClain's article and blog is confusing me... and I'm not sure if it's because he's in the media and doesn't really understand this stuff or if the roster bonus is somehow treated as a NLTBE bonus.

From the blog link from an earlier post:

By agreeing to reduce his base salary this year from $3.8 million to $1.8 million, Green helped the Texans come up with an extra $2 million in cap dollars.

So does this mean the new $3mm roster bonus(es) are not counted on the cap because they are though to be Not Likely to Be Earned? Normally roster bonuses are LTBEs, which then should actually increase Green's cap hit by $500,000. (It's not $1mm - - Don't forget the $500k in roster bonuses Green had before the restructuring.)

The CBA is tough to decipher when it comes to incentives. It basically says that any incentive bonus based on a per game occurence automatically will be deemed as LTBE to the extent the performance was achieved by the player in the previous year.

So, does that mean since Green was not active for 15 games last year that the entire $3 million bonus is NLTBE? Or is it prorated based on the # of games he was active in 2007? ****.

My understanding was that the roster bonuses before the restructuring were LTBEs, so I'm not sure why that would change under the altered agreement.

Still, getting Green to lower his base by $2mm is a pretty good move any way you slice it. If the roster bonuses are LTBE and Green doesn't earn them, then they ought to be added as additional cap space in 2009.

We'll see. Anyhoo... I'm working on the cap page updates if you can't tell, hopefully I'll have them done on Sunday.