Green Restructures Contract [Chronicle]

[KJ3]

Originally Posted by papabear

The reason why Green will see time week one is his pass protection. It's something he has always done well and taken pride in. I say see time because even though he may start....I think slaton and/or Taylor see a fair bit of action, but Slaton is a rookie who has probably never been asked to do much blocking at any level. Pass pro. was a big issue for Taylor early on. It doesn't always get the pub, but with our history of high sack numbers and Scaub getting hurt it's something that I guarantee is on Kubiak's mind.

if ahman is so good at pass protection why isn't he the 3rd down back?

Originally Posted by cadams

this is true, i think LT sits out the entire preseason.

um....let's not go comparing ladanian tomlinson to ahman green. two very, very different situations.

[cadams]

Originally Posted by KJ3

um....let's not go comparing ladanian tomlinson to ahman green. two very, very different situations.

you are too serious there. i was commenting on running backs in general.

[KJ3]

oh...sorry...i kind of figured you were talking about LT.

[cadams]

was using him as an example

[Keith]

Well, the Chronicle seems to still think the roster bonuses begin in Week 2, so maybe that's not a mistake after all...?

Regardless, something else from McClain's article and blog is confusing me... and I'm not sure if it's because he's in the media and doesn't really understand this stuff or if the roster bonus is somehow treated as a NLTBE bonus.

From the blog link from an earlier post:

By agreeing to reduce his base salary this year from $3.8 million to $1.8 million, Green helped the Texans come up with an extra $2 million in cap dollars.

So does this mean the new $3mm roster bonus(es) are not counted on the cap because they are though to be Not Likely to Be Earned? Normally roster bonuses are LTBEs, which then should actually increase Green's cap hit by $500,000. (It's not $1mm - - Don't forget the $500k in roster bonuses Green had before the restructuring.)

The CBA is tough to decipher when it comes to incentives. It basically says that any incentive bonus based on a per game occurence automatically will be deemed as LTBE to the extent the performance was achieved by the player in the previous year.

So, does that mean since Green was not active for 15 games last year that the entire $3 million bonus is NLTBE? Or is it prorated based on the # of games he was active in 2007? ****.

My understanding was that the roster bonuses before the restructuring were LTBEs, so I'm not sure why that would change under the altered agreement.

Still, getting Green to lower his base by $2mm is a pretty good move any way you slice it. If the roster bonuses are LTBE and Green doesn't earn them, then they ought to be added as additional cap space in 2009.

We'll see. Anyhoo... I'm working on the cap page updates if you can't tell, hopefully I'll have them done on Sunday.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Keith

Well, the Chronicle seems to still think the roster bonuses begin in Week 2, so maybe that's not a mistake after all...?

Regardless, something else from McClain's article and blog is confusing me... and I'm not sure if it's because he's in the media and doesn't really understand this stuff or if the roster bonus is somehow treated as a NLTBE bonus.

We both know the answer to that question. It is LTBE. And Green is going to gain us some extra cap so we can cut him next year. (By not playing every game we will be adding 200K to the roster next season for each missed game).

[Keith]

Originally Posted by painekiller

We both know the answer to that question. It is LTBE.

I hear ya.

Checking in with another capologist since I posted, and he thinks it is prorated. Given Green was active 6 games last year, I think that means 6 games * $200,000 = $1.2 million is LTBE and $1.8 million is NLTBE.

I think the NLTBE isn't reflected in the 2008 cap for now. If earned, it will eat up remaining space in 2008; if the team is out of 2008 cap space, then it reduces the available 2009 cap by that amount unaccounted for in 2008.

Kind of a pain on the cap page. For now, I'll keep showing it as all hitting the 2008 cap and reduce it game by game each time Green is inactive.