DraftTek Mock

[kravix]

Originally Posted by Roy P

I would guess that if we do not draft any LBs, we are looking at Bentley, Ryans, June as the starters.

Diles was the leading tackler on the team until he was hurt, do you see him getting beat out if he comes back 100%?

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by kravix

Diles was the leading tackler on the team until he was hurt, do you see him getting beat out if he comes back 100%?

Diles is not a very good football player. I don't understand why there is opinion to the contrary.

I seriously hope that he gets beat out.

[kravix]

Originally Posted by Roy P

Diles is not a very good football player. I don't understand why there is opinion to the contrary.

I seriously hope that he gets beat out.

Going just on the stats, which I understand can lie. In 8 games last year he had 66 tackles, 1 sack, 2 passes defended, and 1 int. Double that and you have an idea of what his totals for the year may have been. That would put him almost in the top 10 LB column stat wise.

I dont have tape to go back to, but I seem to recall that he made some pretty good plays. I would like to know why you dont think he is a good football player though.

[painekiller]

And now to get us back on Tek, their draft for April 6th, number 33, has us taking:
15 Knowshon Moreno RBF Georgia
46 DJ Moore CB Vanderbilt
77 Patrick Chung SS Oregon
112 Ricky Jean-Francois DT43 LSU
122 Scott McKillop ILB Pittsburgh
152 Richard Quinn TE North Carolina
188 Andrew Gardner OT Georgia Tech
223 Sammy Stroughter WRS Oregon St

Time for a my cherry pick with the 28 and 53:
28 Connor Barwin OLB34 Cincinnati
46 Eric Wood OC Louisville
53 William Moore FS Missouri
77 Patrick Chung SS Oregon
112 Kevin Barnes CB Maryland
122 Gregory Toler CB St.Paul Virginia
152 Johnny Knox WRS Abilene Christian
188 Javarris Williams RBF Tennessee State
223 Ryan Purvis TE Boston College

Barwin will be a pass rush specialist as he learn the SAM LB position.
Woods will get time at both RG while he learn the line call.
Moore and Chung, why? Because. Hindsight I go Andre Brown RBF North Carolina St instead of Moore.

Tolar is the pet small school project to soon guy.
Oh and Knox is to small WR guy, bye bye Jacoby.
Williams because he is the best RB available in 3 round and I was starting to panic.
Purvis can block inline and has receiving skills.,

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by kravix

Going just on the stats, which I understand can lie. In 8 games last year he had 66 tackles, 1 sack, 2 passes defended, and 1 int. Double that and you have an idea of what his totals for the year may have been. That would put him almost in the top 10 LB column stat wise.

Did you think Foreman was to ten LB? he had a couple of years with huge stats? I'm not saying Diles is bad, I'm just saying high tackle total is not the whole story.

Do teams have to game plan around a player, until they do that player can be upgraded.

[dalemurphy]

Originally Posted by painekiller

Did you think Foreman was to ten LB? he had a couple of years with huge stats? I'm not saying Diles is bad, I'm just saying high tackle total is not the whole story.

Do teams have to game plan around a player, until they do that player can be upgraded.

I don't think anyone was saying that. Statistics don't tell the whole story but they do indicate production. Myself and others wonder why so much draft focus has been at LB, not because we have 3 all-pros starting there. Instead, it's because I think we all see youth, some depth, and a number of players that looked like they belonged in the NFL. Meanwhile, if you look at our serious lack of depth at RB, interior OL, and a real lack of production and athleticism from the saftey position then LB hardly seems like a position to be targeted in the first round.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by dalemurphy

Meanwhile, if you look at our serious lack of depth at RB, interior OL, and a real lack of production and athleticism from the saftey position then LB hardly seems like a position to be targeted in the first round.

We aren't spending a 1st round pick on a RB to be Slaton's relief, according to the coach. Generally speaking, you don't spend a 1st round pick on an interior lineman. Lastly, there really isn't a 1st round quality Safety in this draft. So, that why concentration has been on LB.

We've spent 1st round picks on TJ and Okoye, so I'm sure that there would be much grumbling about doing that again, especially after signing Shaun Cody (unless we trade Travis during the draft).

Having signed a DE to replace Weaver, I'm not sure if it would be a good strategy to draft a 1st round player with the amount of guaranteed money he'd make, to come in on 3rd downs.

The CB situation with Dunta may make a 1st round pick on one possible. However, Jenkins doesn't appear to fit our system and Davis has some issues that need to be looked into. Maybe Darius Butler, but I'm not sure how much of an "impact" he'd have.

It's kind of a logical deduction that LB is the place to go, which makes the Cato June signing a little remarkable.

[dalemurphy]

Originally Posted by Roy P

We aren't spending a 1st round pick on a RB to be Slaton's relief, according to the coach. Generally speaking, you don't spend a 1st round pick on an interior lineman. Lastly, there really isn't a 1st round quality Safety in this draft. So, that why concentration has been on LB.

We've spent 1st round picks on TJ and Okoye, so I'm sure that there would be much grumbling about doing that again, especially after signing Shaun Cody (unless we trade Travis during the draft).

Having signed a DE to replace Weaver, I'm not sure if it would be a good strategy to draft a 1st round player with the amount of guaranteed money he'd make, to come in on 3rd downs.

The CB situation with Dunta may make a 1st round pick on one possible. However, Jenkins doesn't appear to fit our system and Davis has some issues that need to be looked into. Maybe Darius Butler, but I'm not sure how much of an "impact" he'd have.

It's kind of a logical deduction that LB is the place to go, which makes the Cato June signing a little remarkable.

Well, hopefully that is a bit of misdirection because it sure is foolish to make those kinds of announcements before the draft. Also, if they are going to target a specific position (LB), then they had better be willing and determined to trade down instead a reach for the guy. I like what they did last year with Duane Brown... they sat at their spot hoping someone like Brandon Albert would fall to them, then, instead of reaching for Brown they traded down and took him later. Perhaps it was still a reach, but I don't have a problem going after him after they accumulated some extra picks.

[Blitzwood]

IMO, I think the positions on our team that need the most help now are the D-line, O-line, and RB.

We are pretty well stocked at CB/S with players like Barber, Harrison, and Molden jockeying for some PT and our LB corp has recently been stockedpiled through FA. I believe one pick per would suffice, we have so many other needs to address.

If I was Kubiak, I would move T.J and Okam to the practice squad to send a clear message that their time here could be in jeopardy if they don't pick it up. Shaun Cody is a backup, at best. Detroit was happy to see him go.

Also, our O-line has been terrible, regardless of what our offense did. Schaub and Sage were on their backs and getting injured too often to have any real chance of success, and I'm sure part of that stems from a real lack of depth at the RB position, but it(O-line) also could could stand to be bolstered as well in this draft.


28. Peria Jerry DT
One of the best DT available who has a real chance of being there

46. Ziggy Hood DT
Excellent size with a non stop motor. Our D-line would be set for a decade if we could materialize those two picks alone, though very unlikely. (Backup pick-Jarron Gilbert) Any two out of three would be a success to me. We have to start putting pressure on QB's in order to win close games.

53. Rashad Jennings RB
Very strong runner who keeps himself in excellent shape, could be pro-bowl RB(he won't be there in the 3rd)

77. Mike Mickens CB
Impressive playmaker with good instincts that could play CB and FS

112. Zach Follett WILL
Cerebral player, EXPERIENCED, excellent blitzer that will give Bush the OLB to make plays in the backfield

122. T.J. Lang OG/C/OT
Tough, hardworking player, very versatile that fits our ZBS

152. S. Vollmer OT
Intriguing prospect that would provide depth at R or LT

188. Patrick Turner WR/TE
Texans steal a player late in the draft

223. Gantrell Johnson RB
Powerful runner, "bowling ball", downhill runner, sure handed

UFA Phillip Hunt DE
Kubiak really liked this kid when he got a chance to see him practice at Reliant everyday, good against the run

UFA Robert Francois OLB
Insurance for Diles, Adibi, or Bentley

UFA Ryan McKee OT
More depth with good speed for the ZB