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[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Bigtinylittle

Interesting. So you're saying we take two OGs, no running back until the seventh, and no speed rushing DE? Unless we make some pickups before the draft, I don't see this happening.

He is really saying OC and OG, only Unger can play now at OG and upgrade Briesel while he learns to read the DL and becomes familiar with the line calls. Next year you have a new OC and a 2nd year guy ready to play ORG.

Also most of us are forgetting that Chester is starting to get to age that we need to find his eventual replacement in the next couple of years.

[gunn]

Originally Posted by painekiller

He is really saying OC and OG, only Unger can play now at OG and upgrade Briesel will he learns to read the DL and becomes familiar with the line calls. Next year you have a new OC and a 2nd year guy ready to play ORG.

Also most of us are forgetting that Chester is starting to get to age that we need to find his eventual replacement in the next couple of years.

Yep... same page.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by gunn

Yep... same page.

BTW if we address the OL like gunn is suggesting we are finally done with the starters, we can then start to be like a non expansion team and take OL candidates to groom. Then our depth at OL will finally be development guys along with maybe one old timer. Not a group of throw aways from other teams.

I see Gibbs staying a few year, at least until his health becomes an issue, because he has retired before and did not like it. Now he is building something special again. This team is getting close.

I would like to draft Unger in the 2nd but I think he is gone before we pick at 46. But if he slides I jump on him.

I like Sebastian Vollmer, he is a diamond in the rough. I can see him being a starter in a few years, making Winston a OG.

An OL of Brown, Pitts, Unger, Winston, Vollmer in a few years would be a huge upgrade to the OL Capers had on the field. That would be a combination of size and quickness, goodbye goalline trouble.

[gunn]

Originally Posted by painekiller

BTW if we address the OL like gunn is suggesting we are finally done with the starters, we can then start to be like a non expansion team and take OL candidates to groom. Then our depth at OL will finally be development guys along with maybe one old timer. Not a group of throw aways from other teams.

I see Gibbs staying a few year, at least until his health becomes an issue, because he has retired before and did not like it. Now he is building something special again. This team is getting close.

I would like to draft Unger in the 2nd but I think he is gone before we pick at 46. But if he slides I jump on him.

I like Sebastian Vollmer, he is a diamond in the rough. I can see him being a starter in a few years, making Winston a OG.

An OL of Brown, Pitts, Unger, Winston, Vollmer in a few years would be a huge upgrade to the OL Capers had on the field. That would be a combination of size and quickness, goodbye goalline trouble.

Having a good offensive line generally equates to having a good team. If people believe that our offensive line is "okay", then they must not have noticed the way this team perfomed on third and shorts and on goal line situations. I doubt Unger will be there as well, but if he is, it's a no brainer.

As for your oline... that's a big right side. It's all about physicality up front for me. I want my guys to be nasty and impose that on other teams... and that's why I'm a big fan of Unger.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by gunn

Having a good offensive line generally equates to having a good team. If people believe that our offensive line is "okay", then they must not have noticed the way this team perfomed on third and shorts and on goal line situations. I doubt Unger will be there as well, but if he is, it's a no brainer.

As for your oline... that's a big right side. It's all about physicality up front for me. I want my guys to be nasty and impose that on other teams... and that's why I'm a big fan of Unger.

If Volmer becomes the player I project then he might be a LT, and that would require Brown to move, do you move Brown to RT with Winston sliding to RG or do you move Brown to RG?

I will say Winston's feet are not near as good as Browns, so a move into the phone booth might sit better with his abilities.

[Bigtinylittle]

Originally Posted by painekiller

He is really saying OC and OG, only Unger can play now at OG and upgrade Briesel while he learns to read the DL and becomes familiar with the line calls. Next year you have a new OC and a 2nd year guy ready to play ORG.

Also most of us are forgetting that Chester is starting to get to age that we need to find his eventual replacement in the next couple of years.

Actually, I realized what he meant and I should have said so. And I really don't think it would necessarily be a bad idea to do it. The part of what he said that really bothers me is not picking up a DE and not getting a back until the seventh. Seventh round backs usually don't have NFL careers. We would have to get awfully lucky to find one that will. Also, the guy he mentioned may not even be there in the seventh when we pick. What do we do then?

As for DE, I thought the whole plan for the DL was to move Smith to the inside on passing downs. If we go with Bulman at RDE in those situations, it seems to me we would not get the full benefit of moving Smith inside. Also we are a bit thin at DE right now. We cut Weaver, and apparently Cochran won't be back, so if Smith moves inside, Bulman is really our only other DE. Sounds scary.