Cause I'm Bored A : Pre All Star Games Mock

[HPF Bob]

I took my own suggestion and made a pre-draft trade up in the first round to try to improve our QB options in the draft. As mentioned in another thread, the Eagles did not have a 2nd round pick so I offered our #1 (22) and #2 for Philly's #13 and was rejected. So I added our 5th (the 20th pick that round) and they took the bait. Later, I traded out of the 4th round to pick up a 5th and 6th from San Francisco, giving us a 1st, 3rd, two 5ths and 2 6ths.

Walter Football was the most recently updated so I used that one which had Carson Wentz ranked 10th on their big board. He was still there at #13.

13: R1P13 QB CARSON WENTZ NORTH DAKOTA STATE
85: R3P22 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
142: R5P3 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
166: R5P27 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA
198: R6P20 OT ALEX LEWIS NEBRASKA
210: R6P32 K ROBERTO AGUAYO FLORIDA STATE

All my guys after this seem to be folks with versatility and special teams potential other than Alex Lewis. Collins is a solid all-around back whose one major knock is ball security. Vannett disappeared with all the talent at OSU but CBS had him rated as the third-best TE who also can be used as a slot receiver or FB. Jones is a converted receiver who returns kicks and can pick off passes. Still raw as a corner though. Aguayo is clearly the top kicker on the board.

Alex Lewis is a guy with 2nd-round talent at LT but has a temper that needs to be controlled. He was sentenced to 45 days while at Colorado for beating a man unconscious and also had discipline issues at Nebraska after he transferred but he was also a team captain with the Huskers. He could be a cheap steal or a huge bust. In the 6th, that's worth a gamble.

[Roy P]

I did two mocks today: the first time was with the Fanspeak database:
#22 QB Paxton Lynch
#52 WR Josh Doctson
#85 RB Kenneth Dixon
#120 SS Miles Killebrew
#159 NT Javon Hargrave
#166 TE Jerell Adams
#198 TE Henry Krieger-Coble

The 2nd time I chose the Risden database and I felt silly:
#22 QB Jared Goff
#52 Laquon Treadwell
#85 OT Shon Coleman
#120 WR Tyler Boyd
#159 RB Jordan Howard
#166 DE Matt Ioannidis
#198 OT Kyle Murphy

[Roy P]

CBS and Draftspeak

#22 QB Carson Wentz
#52 TE Hunter Henry
#85 WR Tyler Boyd
#120 G Christian Wwsterman
#159 RB CJ Prosise
#166 CB Harlan Miller
#198 OLB James Crowser

#22 WR Laquon Treadwell
#52 QB Paxton Lynch
#85 Tyler Boyd
#120 RB Kenyan Drake
#159 DE Matt Ioannidis
#166 ILB Blake Martinez
#198 TE David Morgan II

[painekiller]

Cause I just watched Hackenberg's media time. Seems like a good kid, talks the BOB talk. I used Walter's List.

33: R2P2 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS
52: R2P21 QB CHRISTIAN HACKENBERG PENN STATE
85: R3P22 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
93: R3P30 RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS ARKANSAS
101: R4P2 DT HASSAN RIDGEWAY TEXAS
120: R4P21 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD
129: R4P30 WR DE'RUNNYA WILSON MISSISSIPPI STATE
140: R5P1 TE TYLER HIGBEE WESTERN KENTUCKY
159: R5P20 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA
166: R5P27 S JORDAN LUCAS PENN STATE
198: R6P20 WR KOLBY LISTENBEE TCU


ARIZONA CARDINALS GET:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22 (DT SHELDON RANKINS )

TEXANS RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 29 sent to TITANS
ROUND: 3 PICK: 30 (RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS)
ROUND: 4 PICK: 30 (WR DE'RUNNYA WILSON)

TRADE PARTNER:
TENNESSEE TITANS GET:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 29 (CB VERNON HARGREAVES)

TEXANS RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 2 (TE HUNTER HENRY)
ROUND: 4 PICK: 2 (DT HASSAN RIDGEWAY)
ROUND: 5 PICK: 1 (TE TYLER HIGBEE)

2 trade downs to capture 5 extra picks.

[HPF Bob]

It appears Fanspeak will allow you, as the Texans, to send our 1st, 2nd and our first 5th-rounder to Philadelphia for their 1st (13th overall) anytime you want to do it. I tried some other variations of the deal and it always refuses.

The strategy, at this point, has three prongs:

1. Trade up to #13 and hope Goff or Wentz falls to you. I've been able to make this work about 60% of the time. If it doesn't work, then you have to decide whether to trade back down or grab someone else that unexpectedly fell.

2. Stay put at #22 and take Lynch or Cook if they are available.

3. Take another player at #22 or trade down but ultimately, aim for the next group of Prescott and Hackenberg.

I prefer the idea of getting the best QB we can afford without giving up a future #1. Losing your second-rounder hurts but if the reward is Goff or Wentz, it is a good deal. Later, I traded out of the 4th round to San Francisco for an early 5th and a late 6th to give us 6 overall choices.

13: R1P13 QB CARSON WENTZ NORTH DAKOTA ST
85: R3P22 TE AUSTIN HOOPER STANFORD
142: R5P3 RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS ARKANSAS
166: R5P27 OT-OG DENVER KIRKLAND ARKANSAS
198: R6P20 ILB JARED NORRIS UTAH
210: R6P32 K ROBERT AGUAYO FLORIDA ST

Williams is a value pick in the 5th. He was projected a third rounder who was out all last season with a foot injury but appeared at the Senior Bowl. I like backs who didn't get run to death in college and are undervalued because of it.

Kirkland is a massive man with experience at G and OT who can fill in at any of 4 positions along the line but needs refinement.

Norris is a 3-4 ILB who makes up for being a step slow with a quick first step and great ball-hunting instincts. How much longer will we have Cushing? McKinney fills one spot but we need someone else to challenge here.

[Roy P]

I can see why we want to be aggressive about trading up for a Franchise QB. However, the only guy ready to step in and take over the team on day one is Goff, in my opinion. I like Wentz's upside, but would be scared to trade ao much to get him.

[Roy P]

After watching Wentz's footwork today, I will have to say that I am impressed. He has made progress since Mobile. So, after 2nd thought, I would be ok with trading up to 13 for him. I wouldn't do that deal for Lynch though. After watching Wentz today, I doubt he drops to #13 so perhaps it is a moot point. :/