Cause I'm Bored A : Pre All Star Games Mock

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by painekiller

Really on Conklin? Please explain your thoughts on him? Are you looking OT as insurance? (Which might not be a bad move, but you have a lot of cap $ committed to OT already)

Cooper can return punts and has size. (I don't like how he carries the ball like a bread loaf away from his body).

Miles Killebrew is a solid thumper at SS.

Are you really willing to wait until the 4th for Prescott?

Henry Krieger Coble video This coaching staff does like them some boys from Iowa.

We both have Green. My question is can he return punts and can he also play some in the slot? He will be a matchup problem with LBs not being able to cover him.

Beavers looks like a solid raw LT prospect.

I was looking at BPA best case scenarios. I really want TE Hunter Henry in the 1st round, but wanted to go a different way with this mock. I'm scared of the injury Duane Brown has to his quad. The O-line is horrible without Brown in the lineup, so I figured Conklin was good value at #22 and could start RT on day #1 or provide excellent insurance for Duane Brown down the road (later if not sooner). I drafted Beavers late because Mke Mayock has him ranked as his 5th best Tackle and there the guy was still on the board.

Pharoh Cooper is a guy I have heard a lot of buzz about. He would complement Hopkins and Strong while providing Special Teams ability. I am eager to see comparisons with Sterling Shepard of Oklahoma who is currently ranked lower.

Killebrew is similar to Kearse in my opinion but again currently ranked higher. A thumper who has some ball skills and the size to match athletic TEs. Could also be a Gunner on kicks.

I would be sweating bullets to wait for Dak until the 4th round. But, Bryce Petty was a 4th round pick last year and I loved him coming out. If I missed on Prescott, I would have gone Jacoby Brissett or Kevin Hogan later.

Aaron Green is elusive and quick. He reminds me of Reggie Bush, so I would want to pair him with another RB to split carries. Kenyan Drake is the other RB I like to fit this role, but Drake is ranked higher and not as good of a bargain. I beleive Green could be like Andre Ellington or Gio Bernard.

Krieger Coble was the bargain TE I grabbed since I didn't get Henry. I also like Vannett from Ohio State.

[Keith]

If the Texans waited until the 4th round to select a QB - any QB - there will be a mob with pitchforks storming on Kirby Drive.

So if Dak is the answer at QB for this team, who then starts for you week 1? Dak? Savage? Hoyer?

Keep in mind the past two seasons how much the overall success of this team has suffered due to a lack of even a decent QB. Another year of taking a mid-round QB and starting essentially a street FA in Week 1 will not go over well.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Keith

If the Texans waited until the 4th round to select a QB - any QB - there will be a mob with pitchforks storming on Kirby Drive.

So if Dak is the answer at QB for this team, who then starts for you week 1? Dak? Savage? Hoyer?

Keep in mind the past two seasons how much the overall success of this team has suffered due to a lack of even a decent QB. Another year of taking a mid-round QB and starting essentially a street FA in Week 1 will not go over well.

Until I hear other wise, Hoyer is BOB's guy, for now. I would hope they keep Weeden and Savage and let them battle it out, cut Hoyer. Let the rookie be the 3rd guy and learn. Also do like Roy has suggested and hire a QB coach. I would add the QB coach to do nothing but work with the rookie and get him accelerated.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by painekiller

Until I hear other wise, Hoyer is BOB's guy, for now. I would hope they keep Weeden and Savage and let them battle it out, cut Hoyer. Let the rookie be the 3rd guy and learn. Also do like Roy has suggested and hire a QB coach. I would add the QB coach to do nothing but work with the rookie and get him accelerated.

The idea that we'd have a mid round rookie as a 3rd stringer and Hoyer starting games is absurd. Bob McNair is already making media rounds saying we are going to draft a QB.

[Roy P]

I'm guessing it's Paxton Lynch if available or Connor Cook. We shall see.

[chuck]

Originally Posted by barrett

The idea that we'd have a mid round rookie as a 3rd stringer and Hoyer starting games is absurd. Bob McNair is already making media rounds saying we are going to draft a QB.

They've already committed to enabling the stadium for wifi so frankly I don't know how much more forward momentum the organization is capable of right now.

On another note, the team's second and third round picks are usually a shitshow so as far as I'm concerned if the team grabs a dude named Pharoah and then another dude named Scooby I'm going to have to call that a win.

[Arky]

What if they use #22 on Hack?

That would certainly stir things up...... What if that was OB's plan all along? Use schmucks for 2 years until Hackenberg came out...

Not sure I would like it but it would certainly put OB in a make or break situation...

[Roy P]

Maybe Hackenberg stunk it up for 2 years just in case the Texans didn't have the #1 overall pick so he could ensure that he could be reunited with OB.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by Arky

What if they use #22 on Hack?

That would certainly stir things up...... What if that was OB's plan all along? Use schmucks for 2 years until Hackenberg came out...

Not sure I would like it but it would certainly put OB in a make or break situation...

IMO the downside is not that severe when and if missing with the 22nd pick in the Draft. Now if they were to use that pick, along with the second and/or third round pick, and our future first round from the 2017 Draft to move up for a QB, that move has a very steep downside if the QB were to crash&burn. But for the the 22nd Draft pick alone, they should use it on Hack if they like him even if they have him rated as only a second-round value.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Keith

If the Texans waited until the 4th round to select a QB - any QB - there will be a mob with pitchforks storming on Kirby Drive.

So if Dak is the answer at QB for this team, who then starts for you week 1? Dak? Savage?.

I let Savage start with the first 4 weeks. A 2-2 start warrants a 5th start. A 1-3 start is my cue to give Dak a shot to see if he has made progress.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Roy P

I was looking at BPA best case scenarios. I really want TE Hunter Henry in the 1st round, but wanted to go a different way with this mock. I'm scared of the injury Duane Brown has to his quad. The O-line is horrible without Brown in the lineup, so I figured Conklin was good value at #22 and could start RT on day #1 or provide excellent insurance for Duane Brown down the road (later if not sooner). I drafted Beavers late because Mke Mayock has him ranked as his 5th best Tackle and there the guy was still on the board.

I too have been toying with a an OT early for insurance, with both Ben Jones and Brandon Brooks being FAs, I can see a highly likely scenario where one of those guys walks, creating a need for inside help. If Brown is healthy day one, drafting an OT would allow Derek Newton to slide inside to RG. Which in theory, might improve the team. Or you can move the rookie to RG and not expose the edge to a rookie.

Toner is available in the 4 on most mocks and now I can watch Beavers also. I would not be unhappy if we ended up with both Beavers and Toner after the 4th round. But if Mayock is seeing Beavers skills and I saw Toner's skills, little doubt the NFL guys missed them as badly as the mock guys are.

Roy, you and I often find guys low on the mock draft list that end up being drafted in the top 3 rounds, so I would bet that these two guys go earlier than the mockers have them going.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by painekiller

Roy, you and I often find guys low on the mock draft list that end up being drafted in the top 3 rounds, so I would bet that these two guys go earlier than the mockers have them going.

Yeah, that's why I think Prescott goes 1st or 2nd round. CB Cyrus Jones is at least a 3rd round prospect if not 2nd round. Jayron Kearse, Sterling Shepard, and Aaron Green are 3rd or 4th round picks at the least.

All the players I think I can wait until the 4th-7th round for will be long gone.