Cause I'm Bored A : Pre All Star Games Mock

[popanot]

Originally Posted by Nconroe

Perhaps due to trades we will gain a fith rounder for Keshawn Martin, and two seventh rounders - one for Case Keenum to Rams and one for Fitzpatric to Jets.

I think playing time incentives Fitz achieved bumped the 7th up to a 6th.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by popanot

I think playing time incentives Fitz achieved bumped the 7th up to a 6th.

I do believe your right.

[Nconroe]

Draftek is now showing Texans with two in fifth, one in sixth, and none in 7th.

[painekiller]

Time for a new mock:

22 Vernon Butler DT Louisiana Tech Sr 6-4 325
52 Kenneth Dixon RB Louisiana Tech Sr 5-10 215
85 Dak Prescott QB Mississippi State rSr 6-2 226
116 Cole Toner OT Harvard Sr 6-5 305
146 Jayron Kearse SS Clemson Jr 6-4 220
154 Graham Glasgow OG Michigan rSr 6-6 306
177 Temarrick Hemingway TE South Carolina State rSr 6-5 245

Butler is athletic and large, takes advantage of Wilfork to teach him the ropes.
Dixon is a versatile back that can run between the tackles or split out and run routes.
Prescott is a project that has leadership skills and has become a solid passer.
Toner had a solid Senior Bowl, and showing the skills to stonewall guys from the big schools.
Kearse brings the size for the SS position, is also a ball hawk.
Glasgow can play center or guard, well coached in college.
Hemingway is a big bodied split out TE.

[Roy P]

I like it. No real surprise, we often like the same type of players, PK. It's still early, but do you like Vernon Butler more than Jarran Reed or do you believe that Reed is off the board by #22? I am also a fan of Kearse and am eager to compare his measurables to Miles Killebrew

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Roy P

I like it. No real surprise, we often like the same type of players, PK. It's still early, but do you like Vernon Butler more than Jarran Reed or do you believe that Reed is off the board by #22? I am also a fan of Kearse and am eager to compare his measurables to Miles Killebrew

Yes we do often agree on players, you appear to be the more analytical of us two. I like to see guys in one on one drills and such, I'm not so into the combine numbers they put up. But I do look at measurables.

As for Reed v Butler. I used the cbssports.com rating of the players, and I try not to grab players after their slotting. CBS has Reed as #21, so in my mock he would be gone. But I am not sure which guy I would rank ahead of the other all things being equal. Butler looks more fluid and does not move like a 325lb guy. Granted Reed's highlights are against guys more skilled than Butler has played. I would love to be able to go back and watch the Senior Bowl Practices again.

[painekiller]

Offensive Draft (Different names to watch)

22 Corey Coleman WR Baylor rJr 5-10 190
52 Nick Martin C Notre Dame rSr 6-4 296 2-3
85 Tyler Higbee TE Western Kentucky rSr 6-5 233
116 Cardale Jones QB Ohio State rJr 6-5 250
146 Aaron Green RB TCU rSr 5-11 203
154 Tom Hackett P Utah Sr 5-11 195
177 Ka'imi Fairbairn K UCLA Sr 6-0 183

Defensive Draft ( new names to watch)

22 Austin Johnson DT Penn State rJr 6-4 323
52 Carl Nassib DE Penn State rSr 6-7 273
85 Scooby Wright III ILB Arizona Jr 6-0 246
116 Cyrus Jones CB Alabama Sr 5-10 196
146 Hassan Ridgeway DT Texas rJr 6-3 320
154 Tyvis Powell FS Ohio State rJr 6-3 209
177 Anthony Zettel DE Penn State rSr 6-4 273

Just some names to watch, that may or may not be on your radars.

BTW if Nassib can play 3-4DE and replace Crick, the Front 7 would clobber other teams OLs. Watt - Wilfork/Johnson - Nassib with Merercilus - McKinney - Cushing - Clowney

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by painekiller

Time for a new mock:

22 Vernon Butler DT Louisiana Tech Sr 6-4 325
52 Kenneth Dixon RB Louisiana Tech Sr 5-10 215
85 Dak Prescott QB Mississippi State rSr 6-2 226
116 Cole Toner OT Harvard Sr 6-5 305
146 Jayron Kearse SS Clemson Jr 6-4 220
154 Graham Glasgow OG Michigan rSr 6-6 306
177 Temarrick Hemingway TE South Carolina State rSr 6-5 245

I wanted to look at where some of these guys are ranked on a few different sites.

Vernon Butler is ranked : CBS Sports - 33; Walter - 15; Draft Tek - 105
Kenneth Dixon is ranked: CBS Sports - 75; Walter - 71; Draft Tek - 82
Dak Prescott is ranked: CBS Sports - 115; Walter - 115; Draft Tek - 110
Cole Toner is ranked: CBS Sports - 125; Walter - not rated; Draft Tek - 136
Jayron Kearse is ranked: CBS Sports - 152; Walter - 79; Draft Tek - 45

So a lot of different views for the guys at the top. And that is what the NFL Draft will be like, only one team has to have the guy you have targeted in the 5th round ranked 45th overall and you loose him.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by painekiller

So a lot of different views for the guys at the top. And that is what the NFL Draft will be like, only one team has to have the guy you have targeted in the 5th round ranked 45th overall and you loose him.

That's why I find it a waste of time to rank all 250 players and only focus on My Guys. My draft board has enough players to target in each round that will fit into a system and fill roles on the roster. The trick is trying to figure out how to maximize the draft class and getting the positions you want filled with the best undervalued players without the need of having to reach for your guy.

Dak Prescott being ranked #110 is amazing to me. Perhaps it's because he is not 6'5" or because he played in Tim Tebow's offense. Not really sure, but I would love to get him in the 4th round. The question becomes do I risk waiting that long and potentially missing out on him. My fallback plan would then become Jacoby Brissett. However, he could come off the board by the time I got to pick again and if I was targeting him in the 5th would that be a reach? Worse, what if I panicked because Prescott was gone and I traded up for Brissett and missed out on Kenyan Drake or Jayron Kearse.

This kind of "what if" scenarios makes me want to pull the trigger on Dak in the 2nd round so I make sure I get my QB and keep as many draft picks as possible.

I still have regrets that we were waiting for Jimmy Garoppolo to fall to the 3rd round.

[painekiller]

If I am going Offensive heavy in this draft, then I might be looking a little bit harder at this guy.

Corey Coleman: The 5-11 WR from Baylor is in the 4.3 range, and he can stop and start, making him a possible PR guy also. Watch the video