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Old 04-28-2010, 09:09 AM
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Or Sharper...
Interesting thought. There is no question that he made an enormous impact on the Saints last year and I'm not sure they win the Super Bowl without him. Savvy veteran leadership for a relatively young secondary. Having said that, I think it's fairly clear the Texans aren't in the market for guys like this. While I understand you can go overboard compiling big name players on the decline, a la the Redskins, I do think there is something to be said for taking a guy or two like that as stop-gap measures at positions of need, particularly when you think you are positioned to challenge for the playoffs. I think it is pretty clear the Texans don't feel this way though so all this talk is probably just that--talk.
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Old 04-28-2010, 11:13 AM
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Interesting thought. There is no question that he made an enormous impact on the Saints last year and I'm not sure they win the Super Bowl without him. Savvy veteran leadership for a relatively young secondary. Having said that, I think it's fairly clear the Texans aren't in the market for guys like this. While I understand you can go overboard compiling big name players on the decline, a la the Redskins, I do think there is something to be said for taking a guy or two like that as stop-gap measures at positions of need, particularly when you think you are positioned to challenge for the playoffs. I think it is pretty clear the Texans don't feel this way though so all this talk is probably just that--talk.
Definitely agree. I would also add that I don't think the Texans feel there is anything wrong with the safeties. I've heard them say good things about Pollard, Wilson, and Barber. My guess is that Wilson is their saavy veteran.
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Old 04-28-2010, 11:23 AM
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Definitely agree. I would also add that I don't think the Texans feel there is anything wrong with the safeties. I've heard them say good things about Pollard, Wilson, and Barber. My guess is that Wilson is their saavy veteran.
What they say in public at a press conference and what they really think are two different things in many cases.
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Old 04-28-2010, 01:40 PM
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What they say in public at a press conference and what they really think are two different things in many cases.
Agree with that for sure. I guess they are always looking to upgrade but stay in their long term plan for now and build some consistency as well.

Here is a pretty recent list of FA available today by position.
http://www.profootballweekly.com/201...st-by-position

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Old 04-28-2010, 02:45 PM
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I think we'er making a mountain out of a mole-hill.
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Old 04-28-2010, 07:32 PM
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Here is a pretty recent list of FA available today by position.
http://www.profootballweekly.com/201...st-by-position
Could somebody talk to me about Arron Sears and Tampa Bay. I thought he was pretty good there, and they just cut him. Is he injured? Any thoughts on bringing him in?

As for bringing in Veteran savvy and leadership. Keith Bulluck should be able to take the job from Zach Diles. Perhaps his agent is asking for $4Mil per year or something, but I'd be ok for 2 years at that price.

I wanted to draft Jeremy Thompson to play DE opposite of Mario. The Packers drafted him and now he is mis-cast as a 3/4 OLB. He is an Unrestricted FA and should be cheap. I understand that we have Barwin and Smith already, but is having 4 pass-rushing DE's on the roster a bad thing? Isn't that how the Giants won the SuperBowl a couple of years ago?

That's all I got.
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Old 04-28-2010, 07:42 PM
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Could somebody talk to me about Arron Sears and Tampa Bay. I thought he was pretty good there, and they just cut him. Is he injured? Any thoughts on bringing him in?
It looks like he is going through 'personal problems' off the field. So, that is probably with the Bucs cut him and why we won't sign him.

http://www.tampabay.com/sports/footb...cle1021165.ece

http://www.tampabay.com/sports/footb...cle1007440.ece
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Old 04-28-2010, 08:50 PM
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Darren Sharper is who I would go get. He would be the best Safety we have had, and IMO he would help us storm into the playoffs.
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Old 04-29-2010, 12:32 AM
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I wanted to draft Jeremy Thompson to play DE opposite of Mario. The Packers drafted him and now he is mis-cast as a 3/4 OLB. He is an Unrestricted FA and should be cheap. I understand that we have Barwin and Smith already, but is having 4 pass-rushing DE's on the roster a bad thing? Isn't that how the Giants won the SuperBowl a couple of years ago?

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Jeremy Thompson is retiring due to injury
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Old 04-29-2010, 10:18 PM
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Jeremy Thompson is retiring due to injury
Wow! That really sucks. He was like the definition of what I wanted from a LDE in terms of measureables. Guess he just never had a chance to develop and now an injury. Very young to have to retire due to injury.
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Old 04-28-2010, 03:23 PM
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What they say in public at a press conference and what they really think are two different things in many cases.
While I agree with this generally, their actions regarding the safety position seem to suggest that their public comments mirror their private ones. They never make any significant attempts to upgrade the position. Remember last year they claimed they were satisfied with their safeties and backed up these public comments by going into the regular season with absolute garbage at the safety position. By doing that, I gotta think they actually thought they were good at safety and it wasn't just PR. It was only after they were torched the first couple of games that they showed any indication that maybe they needed to look for someone to bring in. Luckily, Pollard fell into their laps.
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Old 04-30-2010, 06:06 AM
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While I agree with this generally, their actions regarding the safety position seem to suggest that their public comments mirror their private ones. They never make any significant attempts to upgrade the position. Remember last year they claimed they were satisfied with their safeties and backed up these public comments by going into the regular season with absolute garbage at the safety position. By doing that, I gotta think they actually thought they were good at safety and it wasn't just PR. It was only after they were torched the first couple of games that they showed any indication that maybe they needed to look for someone to bring in. Luckily, Pollard fell into their laps.

I've brought this same issue up on another board when the Texans negleted the fs position in this years draft. I hope Kubiak isn't just so stubborn that it clouds his judgement. Counting on Eugene Wilson after he has missed so many games due to injury over the last 3 seasons just doesn't make good sense. FS has been the single most neglected position on the team since its inception.
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Old 04-30-2010, 11:08 AM
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I thought they should perhaps draft a FS prior to UDFA as well.

Last year they were very bad the first 3-4 games, but defense got a lot better last 12 or so games, so maybe need this year is not quite as bad as last year this time.

I guess they like Eugene Wilson and Dominick Barber plus a draft pick from last year should all be healthy this year. They have quite a few DB on roster now, so perhaps we have some good backup to Wilson should he be injured again.

Then, there is still a long while till Sept. to pick up a FS via free agency should a good one come along.
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