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Old 04-27-2010, 12:20 PM
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I'd go along with Barrett's scenario, invite him in to camp, offer him a good salary if he makes it through training camp.

There are definitely references out there saying he has lost a step and has not pass protected as well as he used to, but run blocking is still considered top notch.

on the math/statistics -
Texans passed 60% of their 1062 plays which is 637 plays you can get sacked on. overall Texans allowed 25 sacks and Studdard allowed 5 of these.
so Studdard allowed 637/5 or 1 sack every 127 pass plays, not bad.

Jets passed on 42% of 1047 plays which is 439 pass plays. overall Jets allowed 30 sacks and Faneca allowed 7 of those. so Faneca allowed 439/7 or 1 sack every 62 pass plays.

if you were to compare the 2009 numbers - Faneca allowed more than double the sacks as Studdard per pass play.

if we are a passing team first, might not be such a great idea.
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Old 04-27-2010, 01:09 PM
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I would rather bring back (health pending) Chester Pitts. Although Faneca might be able to bring something in terms of attitude and experience.
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Old 04-27-2010, 01:25 PM
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Texans passed 60% of their 1062 plays which is 637 plays you can get sacked on. overall Texans allowed 25 sacks and Studdard allowed 5 of these.
so Studdard allowed 637/5 or 1 sack every 127 pass plays, not bad.

Jets passed on 42% of 1047 plays which is 439 pass plays. overall Jets allowed 30 sacks and Faneca allowed 7 of those. so Faneca allowed 439/7 or 1 sack every 62 pass plays.

if you were to compare the 2009 numbers - Faneca allowed more than double the sacks as Studdard per pass play.
Without rehashing earlier comments, sacks allowed has many moving parts beside the lineman and it's difficult to draw definitive conclusions about each lineman's play from this.

Secondly, these numbers are meaningless unless you know how many of these snaps Faneca and Studdard played. I know we didn't start the year with Studdard in the starting lineup so your numbers need to be adjusted for the actual snaps Studdard played.
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Old 04-27-2010, 01:29 PM
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Another thing to consider. The Jets offensive line is generally considered to be one of the best in the league. Yet, not just Faneca but their line as a whole gave up more sacks than the Texans' line despite fewer passing attempts. Seems as though you can draw one of two conclusions from this. One, the Texans actually had a better OL than the Jets (at least at pass protecting), or two, some other factors were contributing to the Jets' sack total. I think you would be hardpressed to find anyone in the NFL who would take last year's Texan OL over the Jets OL, so I'm inclined to go with No. 2.
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Old 04-27-2010, 01:52 PM
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According the the NFLnetwork guy, the one that used to be the GM of the Raiders forget his name, the front runner is the Browns and Eric Mangini was the HC that signed Faneca to the huge deal and would be happy to have him again.

Plus they are reporting that Faneca will not take a cut in pay but wants to double dip as much as he can from this season.

Good bye Texans. They are trying the Drayton McLane school of signing a FAQ, offer him less the the other teams and beg him to come play for you.
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Old 04-27-2010, 05:28 PM
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The way I read it is, Faneca is 33, he is still good on run plays but he gave up 6.5 sacks last year. Based on that I would say we wouldn't be any better off with Faneca than we are right now with Studdard.
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Old 04-27-2010, 10:14 PM
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Faneca has agreed to terms with the Cardinals -- one year, $2.5 million gauranteed base with a $300k signing bonus and a $100k workout bonus. He'll be reunited with Ken Whisenhunt and Russ Grimm, who also coached him in Pittsburgh.
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Old 04-27-2010, 10:36 PM
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Faneca has agreed to terms with the Cardinals -- one year, $2.5 million gauranteed base with a $300k signing bonus and a $100k workout bonus. He'll be reunited with Ken Whisenhunt and Russ Grimm, who also coached him in Pittsburgh.
Well, crap.....Now what are we going to talk about
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Old 04-27-2010, 02:07 PM
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I did say bring him in and see what happens, not unusual to do this.

Kasey Studdard started 14 games and played in all 16 in 2009, his first year to start. I'm not saying can't improve Texans OL either, just saying need to do the OTA's, training camp, see who you drafted, check the FA's, looks like several others will become available, then have a great 2010 season. Lots of factors why Texans didn't run well either.

So, two to one sacks allowed, no matter the reasons, and I think in NY they thought it was because Faneca was getting old and lost a step or two is quite a difference from one position, otherwise why release him.

Overall Jets line, for run game , obviously maybe the best as a unit. They had much more experience and years together than the Texans OL as well. They are trying to get better for pass as well.
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