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Old 04-10-2010, 04:33 AM
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I could not sleep so I thought about a big change of pace.

Trade down with the Jets at 29, get Jets 2010 2nd (61), and give our 2011 4th

29 Maurkice Pouncey* OC Florida
51 Jon Asamoah OG Illinois
61 Major Wright* S Florida
81 Montario Hardesty RB Tennessee
118 Jerome Murphy CB South Florida
135 Torrell Troup DT Central Florida
187 Lonyae Miller RB Fresno State
197 Donovan Warren* CB Michigan
227 Fendi Onobun TE Houston

The OL is fixed. You got one of the 3 best RB for your system. Wright and Murphy are big hitters. Troup could be the NT we have been looking for.

Alot of these picks come from here
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Old 04-10-2010, 02:19 PM
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Trade down with the Jets at 29, get Jets 2010 2nd (61), and give our 2011 4th

29 Maurkice Pouncey* OC Florida
51 Jon Asamoah OG Illinois
61 Major Wright* S Florida
81 Montario Hardesty RB Tennessee
118 Jerome Murphy CB South Florida
135 Torrell Troup DT Central Florida
187 Lonyae Miller RB Fresno State
197 Donovan Warren* CB Michigan
227 Fendi Onobun TE Houston
29 RB Ryan Matthews
51 FS Brandon Ghee
61 OG Jon Asamoah
81 DT Geno Atkins
118 DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim
135 CB Kevin Thomas
187 RB Andre Anderson
197 CB Crezdon Butler
227 WR Stephen Williams

I didn't want to draft a RB 1st, but after the trade down, he was the BPA. It was nice though, I was able to get Asamoah, Atkins, and Te'o-Nesheim to go along with Ghee. Since I was able to also get Thomas and Butler, it allows me to move Ghee to FS.
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Old 04-11-2010, 03:31 PM
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1. Maurkice Pouncey, OC
2. Morgan Burnett, FS
3. Lamarr Houston, DT
4. Perrish Cox, CB
5. Charles Scott, RB
6a. Walter McFadden, CB
6b. Dexter McCluster, RB/WR
7. Kavell Conner, OLB

I went with REAL help on the offensive line in the 1st, no more 3-4 NT's tossing aside our C and blowing up plays. I chose Burnett because of his versatility, he can play any position in the backfield, but he'll most likely start at FS. I address the DT's next, Okoye now becomes a backup. I take a flyer on Cox in the 4th since he's still on the board. After addressing our O-line issue, I picked up the best downhill/goal line runner still available, Charles Scott, to complement Slaton and Foster in the 5th. In the 6th, I get some insurance at our two positions of biggest needs in case of injury OR any unforeseen knucklehead behavior. In the 7th round I find a new WILL to challenge our current 7th round WILL.
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Old 04-11-2010, 04:09 PM
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A another site I like Great Blue North Draft Report has a ranking of the top 250 players, it title top 100 but has been expanded.

Using their ranking I would take:
20 Maurkice Pouncey C Florida BPA available with no trade down available, Smith Pouncey Caldwell would be the middle starters
51 Nate Allen FS South Florida
81 Jerome Murphy CB South Florida
119 Mike Johnson OG Alabama Makes Smith a backup at some point
151 Zane Beadles OG Utah more versatile depth, never to much depth
187 Andre Anderson RB Tulane
197 Reji Karim RB Southern Illinois
227 Vince Oghobaase DT Duke

Boy I want some more picks in the late 2nd to 5th rounds.
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Old 04-11-2010, 05:48 PM
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A another site I like Great Blue North Draft Report

I would take:
20 Maurkice Pouncey C Florida BPA available with no trade down available, Smith Pouncey Caldwell would be the middle starters
51 Nate Allen FS South Florida
81 Jerome Murphy CB South Florida
119 Mike Johnson OG Alabama Makes Smith a backup at some point
151 Zane Beadles OG Utah more versatile depth, never to much depth
187 Andre Anderson RB Tulane
197 Reji Karim RB Southern Illinois
227 Vince Oghobaase DT Duke
I don't think that I like this mock draft very much since I came away with 3 OL, a QB, and no RBs? I suppose at some point I should have came off the board and reached, but the RB's & CB's kept coming off right before I picked.

20 LB Sean Weatherspoon - BPA
51 OG Jon Asamoah - Can paly C or RG
81 DT Geno Atkins - pass rush from the middle
118 OC JD Walton - severely underrated on this board.
150 QB Dan LeFevour - I know, but I just couldn't pass at this point.
187 S Robert Johnson - A ballhawk to get INTs
197 OC Eric Olsen - BPA at this point
227 CB Crezdon Butler - I got one CB.
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Old 04-11-2010, 08:03 PM
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I don't think that I like this mock draft very much since I came away with 3 OL, a QB, and no RBs? I suppose at some point I should have came off the board and reached, but the RB's & CB's kept coming off right before I picked.
I had to go way down his list to grab the DBs I wanted, and I still ended up with way to many OL guys. I am not impressed with the signing of Smith, and my mock makes him a one year and drop guy, but 3 rookies at any position is alot. A couple of the OL guys I drafted could play OT in a pinch.

I thought about taking Skelton, but had bigger needs yet to fill. I also wanted to take Gerhart but he was rated a low 2nd rounder and I did not see him as a 51st pick, at least not for us. A trade down in the 1st would gather another 2nd or 3rd pick and could be a big help.
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Old 04-11-2010, 10:21 PM
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I also wanted to take Gerhart but he was rated a low 2nd rounder and I did not see him as a 51st pick, at least not for us. A trade down in the 1st would gather another 2nd or 3rd pick and could be a big help.
Right now, Gerhart's average mock draft "value" is about 59th pick overall. Of course, there's flucuations from 33 - 104.

I just see a lot of meat on the bone from the 2nd to the top of the 4th round. Perhaps trading down in the 1st, trading down in the 2nd, and trading up in the 4th with next year's 3rd round pick could be accomplished. The DB, RB, OL, and DL talent is right there in the 30's - 120's.
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Old 04-11-2010, 08:45 PM
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I don't think that I like this mock draft very much since I came away with 3 OL, a QB, and no RBs? I suppose at some point I should have came off the board and reached, but the RB's & CB's kept coming off right before I picked.

20 LB Sean Weatherspoon - BPA
51 OG Jon Asamoah - Can paly C or RG
81 DT Geno Atkins - pass rush from the middle
118 OC JD Walton - severely underrated on this board.
150 QB Dan LeFevour - I know, but I just couldn't pass at this point.
187 S Robert Johnson - A ballhawk to get INTs
197 OC Eric Olsen - BPA at this point
227 CB Crezdon Butler - I got one CB.
I don't mean this as a criticism Roy but, you seem to be in love with Geno Atkins. He has been prominent in every draft you have mocked for the last 2 weeks or so. It could be skewing your whole draft a bit to be so bent on that one person. Might be why you are having trouble pulling off the draft you want to make or maybe he is good enough to make the draft!
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Old 04-11-2010, 09:40 PM
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I don't mean this as a criticism Roy but, you seem to be in love with Geno Atkins. He has been prominent in every draft you have mocked for the last 2 weeks or so. It could be skewing your whole draft a bit to be so bent on that one person. Might be why you are having trouble pulling off the draft you want to make or maybe he is good enough to make the draft!
Here is what John Harris said about Atkins

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Geno Atkins, Georgia - gosh, I don't like this marriage at all (he's downright miniature for a defensive tackle in a 4-3), but Atkins made a beautiful showing against Mike Iupati in the Senior Bowl. If you're a Iupati fan, then you have to love Atkins. But, boy, he's tiny. Late third might work for Atkins, perhaps too late for the Texans but he's an effort guy with a ton of quickness.
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Old 04-11-2010, 10:09 PM
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I don't mean this as a criticism Roy but, you seem to be in love with Geno Atkins!
I just did a reshuffling of my draftboard and ran it against DraftTek simulator. This was my loot.

20 OG Trent Williams http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-icEPTOeKhk
51 FS Brandon Ghee http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caoFY...ext=1&index=12
81 RB Toby Gerhart http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjLh_yO41jw
118 DT Torrell Troup
150 CB Kevin Thomas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TltqT7D8D_I&NR=1
187 DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wLGeSdHgO0
197 RB Andre Anderson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtUuseJjmCE
227 WR Stephen Williams http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehMxI_i61xE

I will admit that I think Geno Atkins is awesome as a 3-Tech in our system. He gets penetration and he is not 'tiny' by any stretch of the imagination. He was 6'2" 293lbs at the Combine and still ran a 4.75, 4.43 - Shuttle, 7.33 - Cone. Rahim Alem would qualify as 'tiny' at 6'3" 251lbs and he put up 4.75, 4.80 - shuttle, 7.54 - Cone. Oh by the way, Amobi Okoye is 6'2" 296lbs, I'm sure those extra 3lbs are the difference.
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Old 04-11-2010, 10:27 PM
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29 RB Ryan Matthews
51 FS Brandon Ghee
61 OG Jon Asamoah
81 DT Geno Atkins
118 DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim
135 CB Kevin Thomas
187 RB Andre Anderson
197 CB Crezdon Butler
227 WR Stephen Williams
Using that trade, and I truly feel we will trade down in the first, I came up with:

29. Kareem Jackson CB
51. Ben Tate RB
61. Lamarr Houston DT
81. Myron Lewis FS/CB
118. Eric Olsen OC/LG
135. Torrell Troup DT
187. Chris Scott OT
197. Simoni Lawrence OLB
227. Lindsey Witten DE


This is probably my most satisfying draft to date.
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