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Old 03-09-2010, 12:20 PM
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So what about moving Brown inside to LG and drafting a LT?
If Trent Williams is available when we pick at #20, that's exactly what I would do. Hopefully, Duane Brown isn't too much of a liability in the run game though as a LG. However, I imagine the top LT's will be gone at #20 anyway.
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Old 03-09-2010, 12:48 PM
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If Trent Williams is available when we pick at #20, that's exactly what I would do. Hopefully, Duane Brown isn't too much of a liability in the run game though as a LG. However, I imagine the top LT's will be gone at #20 anyway.

I'm not sold on Trent Williams as a LT. He looks more like a right tackle who can spot a team on the left side to me. I would move him inside to guard personally
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Old 03-09-2010, 02:31 PM
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I'm not sold on Trent Williams as a LT. He looks more like a right tackle who can spot a team on the left side to me. I would move him inside to guard personally
I agree.

I would make Brown a RG before I made him a LG, or I would move Winston to OG and try Brown at RT. I already can hear the guys yelling you do not move a top 5 RT to OG for an unproven player.

As for Williams, he looks like a RT to me also.
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Old 03-09-2010, 04:38 PM
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I agree.

I would make Brown a RG before I made him a LG, or I would move Winston to OG and try Brown at RT. I already can hear the guys yelling you do not move a top 5 RT to OG for an unproven player.

As for Williams, he looks like a RT to me also.
It might just be easiest to put Williams at LG and leave everyone in place. That's just me though. I know that he would upgrade the talent level of the entire group, so let the coaches figure out where to put him. As long as we have to the top 5 OL on the field, I don't care where they line up.

I've heard this opinion that Trent is a RT at the next level, but I haven't seen the evidence. He did well against Orakpo and Kindle and they are first round pass rushers.
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Old 03-10-2010, 07:30 AM
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I would make Brown a RG before I made him a LG
The differences betwen playing LT & RT are distinct, significant, & well known, but what about the differences between the 2 guard positions ?
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Old 03-10-2010, 12:30 PM
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The differences betwen playing LT & RT are distinct, significant, & well known, but what about the differences between the 2 guard positions ?
Simular to the tackles, the LG is usually consider the more mobile guy, the RG is considered more the road grader.

That is why Studdard is a LG only, because he not a road grader.

In the up coming draft, Mike Johnson and Mike Iupati are LG types, yes Iupati has excellent feet, bad techneque, but excellent feet. BTW this is not about forty times.
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Old 03-10-2010, 12:54 PM
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BTW this is not about forty times.
Looking at "mobile" players and those who are on my draft board....

3-Cone Drill
Newhouse, Marshall 7.40
Veldheer, Jared 7.40
Saffold, Rodger 7.42
Hawley, Joe 7.50
Olsen, Eric 7.50
Washington, Tony 7.52
Lauvao, Shawn 7.56
Campbell, Bruce 7.58
Tennant, Matt 7.60
Walton, J.D. 7.60

Short Shuttle
Lauvao, Shawn 4.51
Veldheer, Jared 4.51
Newhouse, Marshall 4.60
Tennant, Matt 4.62
Williams, Trent 4.63
Brooks, Dorian 4.66
Larsen, Ted 4.66
Saffold, Rodger 4.67
Capers, Selvish 4.68
Campbell, Bruce 4.69
Walton, J.D. 4.69
Jerry, John 4.69
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Old 03-10-2010, 12:59 PM
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I also have my "prototypes" for the OL just for comparisons.....

OG
6’4”
310lbs
5.10 – 40 yd
1.77 – 10 yd
2.90 - 20 yd
4.65 – Shuttle
7.55 – Cone Drill

27” – Vertical
9’0” – Long Jump
25 – Bench Press

OT
6’5”
315lbs
5.18 – 40 yd
1.79 – 10 yd
2.93 - 20 yd
4.68 – Shuttle
7.60 – Cone Drill

25” – Vertical
8’10” – Long Jump
24 – Bench Press
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