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Old 02-07-2010, 12:31 AM
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I have come to the conclusion that this draft isn't one of my favorites in terms of matching needs with players. I can't say that I have any great Offensive Linemen that I feel comfortable can come in and play at a high level to establish our running game. Trying to find a "mauler" that can also pass protect and be agile enough to fit into a ZBS is harder than it looks. The guys who are potential LT prospects are the OL that I'm considering. However, Shawn Andrews of the Eagles is the last guy I can think of who was a LT in college that was drafted to play RG. I'd like Bryan Bulaga but I'm not sure he's available when we pick nor am I sure that I want to spend a 1st round pick to go that direction. His college teammate, Kyle Calloway is intriguing in terms of his talent and when he's likely to be drafted. I'm interested in how he tests at the Combine because, I think he might not be "athletic" enough for this coaching staff. Probably the best fit of talent and when he'll be selected is Jon Asamoah from Illinois, again I am not sure if I want to spend a 2nd rounder, but I suppose I'll have to bite the bullet. That's IF he's still around at pick #50, since I've seen him off the board at #37.

The Secondary is no different really. We can forget about being able to take Eric Berry in the first round, the word is out that he's pretty good. Joe Haden is also most likely gone before we make a pick. There is going to be some sentiment to select Longhorn Earl Thomas to be our ballhawk. The question is can we afford to take a player who isn't very good at tackling and is small for the position that could lead to injury? If all we want is a player to sit back in Zone and make Interceptions, might we take a CB like Syd'Quan Thompson in the 2nd round and tell him to help out when he can against the run without getting himself killed? Ah, there's that 2nd round pick again that I was going to spend on Asamoah. Wait a minute, the CB's in this draft are not very good in all phases of the game either. I have my eye on Kyle Wilson, but he's probably a 2nd round pick too just like Donovan Warren. If I were able to luck out and have Brandon Ghee available at pick #83 in the 3rd round, I'd be pretty happy.

We'd like a RB too in this draft, and the best chance to get one that will be a difference maker is in the 3rd round. That's assuming Toby Gerhart or Ben Tate are still on the board. Perhaps we get another Tennessee RB Montario Hardesty. I know he absolutely killed the University of Kentucky when I watched that game.

I personally would like a LB to take the place of Diles. We have Freeman on the roster and it will be interesting to see if Adibi continues to draw a check. I have a long history of projecting LBs higher than when they are actually drafted. A perfect example is Brandon Siler of the Florida Gators, now Chargers. I'm hopeful that short Bulldog LB Rennie Curran falls into this category. It would great if he "fell" to the 5th round.

The 6th and 7th round is going to go towards players who may "grow" into their position. I wouldn't mind drafting a big, slow CB who could project into the FS position. Brian Jackson of Oklahoma or Chris Cook are who I'm thinking of specifically. Then there is the idea of Caldwell being a guard, in which case we could draft a OC late like Eric Olsen - Notre Dame, John Estes - Hawaii, or Jeff Byers - USC.

So, in my perfect scenario we trade out of the first round with KC Chiefs and get picks: #36, #68, #138, #163. Then the draft would look like this...

#36 - OG Jon Asamoah 6'4" 308 5.08 Illinois
#50 - CB Donovan Warren 6'0" 185 4.42 Michigan
#68 - FS Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 4.45 Wake Forest
#83 - RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 4.55 Stanford
#115 - LB Rennie Curran 5'11" 225 4.56 Georgia
#138 - DT Mike Neal 6'3" 300 4.96 Purdue
#146 - OC Ted Larsen 6'2" 300 5.24 North Carolina St
#163 - QB John Skelton 6'5" 245 4.88 Fordham
#177 - DT Corey Peters 6'3" 295 4.95 Kentucky
#187 - OC Jeff Byers 6'3" 299 5.22 USC
#210 - Given to KC in trade
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Old 02-07-2010, 01:42 AM
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Using your trade scenario I would go best OC and CB first. I'm tired of seeing our centers getting blown up by big 3-4 NT's. Pouncey offers a good combination of size, athleticism and experience along with a nasty demeanor. Kyle Wilson, I thought played well in the senior bowl and gets the nod here.

I also get Walter McFadden to help out the secondary as a FS. He really had a knack for the ball this season and if that fails, we know he's already a lockdown defender.

Linval Joseph, who's a junior, can be brought along slowly and will eventually start. Scott helps bolster our often injured O line and M. Johnson gives us some quality depth for the often knicked up LB's.

Bell backs up Foster and Tate and Lawrence challenges to start at WILL.


#36 - Maurkice Pouncey OC Florida
#50 - Kyle Wilson CB Boise St
#68 - Lamarr Houston DT Texas
#83 - Walter McFadden FS/CB Auburn
#115 - Ben Tate RB Auburn
#138 - Linval Joseph DT ECU
#146 - Chris Scott OT Tennessee
#163 - Micah Johnson ILB Kentucky
#177 - Joique Bell RB Wayne St
#187 - Simoni Lawrence OLB Minn
#210 - Given to KC in trade
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Old 02-07-2010, 06:16 PM
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Don't we have an extra sixth from Oakland? How about trying to package it in with our pick in some earlier round to try to move up, say in the first for DT Dan Williams?
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Old 02-20-2010, 04:39 PM
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Default Draftsite.com 7 round mock

http://www.draftsite.com/nfl/2010mock.htm

20 Jonathan Dwyer* RB 6'1" 235 Georgia Tech
51 Chad Jones* S 6'3" 218 LSU
82 Jerome Murphy CB 6'1" 192 South Florida
119 Jacoby Ford WR 5'9" 175 Clemson
152 Terrell Skinner S 6'3" 214 Maryland
190 Max Hall QB 6'1" 200 BYU
200 Jeff Byers OG 6'3" 290 USC
231 Corey Peters DT 6'3" 292 Kentucky

ok in my Cherry pick i have to drop 9 spot to take my guy so I would be trading down with someone Maybe San Diego who are looking RB? we give 20 for 28 and 60
28 Dan Williams DT 6'3" 312 Tennessee
51 Kareem Jackson* CB 5'11" 192 Alabama
60 Jon Asamoah OG 6'5" 309 Illinois
82 Perrish Cox CB 6'1" 195 Oklahoma State
119 Charles Scott RB 5'11" 228 LSU
152 Rodger Saffold OT 6'5" 305 Indiana (OG) prospect had great Shrine week.
190 Cam Thomas DT 6'3" 330 North Carolina
200 John Skelton QB 6'5" 258 Fordham
231 Javarris James RB 6'0" 211 Miami
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Old 02-22-2010, 06:08 PM
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New attempt, because I'm board and I do not think we go starting rookie OG.

ok in my Cherry pick i have to drop 9 spot to take my guy so I would be trading down with someone Maybe San Diego who are looking RB? we give 20 for 28 and 60
28 Kyle Wilson CB 5'10" 190 Boise State
51 Myron Rolle S 6'2" 215 Florida State
60 Dexter McCluster RB 5'8" 165 Mississippi
82 Amari Spievey* CB 6'0" 190 Iowa
119 LeGarrette Blount RB 6'2" 240 Oregon
152 Rodger Saffold OT 6'5" 305 Indiana (OG) prospect had great Shrine week.
190 Cam Thomas DT 6'3" 330 North Carolina
200 John Skelton QB 6'5" 258 Fordham
231 Kerry Meier WR 6'3" 216 Kansas
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Old 02-22-2010, 11:03 PM
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Using PK's trade I have:

28 Dan Williams, DT, Tenn
51 Jahvid Best, RB, Cal
60 Tyson Alualu, DT, Cal
82 Sean Lee, OLB, Penn State
119 Walter Thurmond III, CB, Oregon
152 Terrell Skinner, FS, Maryland
190 Alterraun Verner, CB, UCLA
200 Harry Coleman, S, LSU
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Old 02-22-2010, 11:30 PM
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Using PK's trade I have:

28 Dan Williams, DT, Tenn
51 Jahvid Best, RB, Cal
60 Tyson Alualu, DT, Cal
82 Sean Lee, OLB, Penn State
119 Walter Thurmond III, CB, Oregon
152 Terrell Skinner, FS, Maryland
190 Alterraun Verner, CB, UCLA
200 Harry Coleman, S, LSU
Ok, this may be my "perfect" draft....

28 DT Dan Williams 6'3" 325 5.23 Tennessee
51 CB Devin McCourty 5'11" 188 4.47 Rutgers
60 OG Jon Asamoah 6'4" 308 5.08 Illinois
82 RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 4.55 Stanford
119 OT Rodger Saffold 6'5" 306 5.23 Indiana
152 FS Chris Cook 6'2" 210 4.54 Virginia
190 CB Alterraun Verner 5'10" 185 4.52 UCLA
200 QB John Skelton 6'5" 245 4.88 Fordham
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Old 04-23-2010, 01:54 AM
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http://www.draftsite.com/nfl/2010mock.htm

20 Jonathan Dwyer* RB 6'1" 235 Georgia Tech
51 Chad Jones* S 6'3" 218 LSU
82 Jerome Murphy CB 6'1" 192 South Florida
119 Jacoby Ford WR 5'9" 175 Clemson
152 Terrell Skinner S 6'3" 214 Maryland
190 Max Hall QB 6'1" 200 BYU
200 Jeff Byers OG 6'3" 290 USC
231 Corey Peters DT 6'3" 292 Kentucky

ok in my Cherry pick i have to drop 9 spot to take my guy so I would be trading down with someone Maybe San Diego who are looking RB? we give 20 for 28 and 60
28 Dan Williams DT 6'3" 312 Tennessee
51 Kareem Jackson* CB 5'11" 192 Alabama
60 Jon Asamoah OG 6'5" 309 Illinois
82 Perrish Cox CB 6'1" 195 Oklahoma State
119 Charles Scott RB 5'11" 228 LSU
152 Rodger Saffold OT 6'5" 305 Indiana (OG) prospect had great Shrine week.
190 Cam Thomas DT 6'3" 330 North Carolina
200 John Skelton QB 6'5" 258 Fordham
231 Javarris James RB 6'0" 211 Miami

Again this year like the year we took Brown, I had us taking Jackson, but a round later. Wonder if we take Asamoah at 51?
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Don't we have an extra sixth from Oakland? How about trying to package it in with our pick in some earlier round to try to move up, say in the first for DT Dan Williams?
it's San Diego and it's a 6th rounder for Travis Johnson.
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Roy did you happen to notice this guy during the Shrine game? Rodger Saffold OT 6'5" 305 Indiana. The press on him was he stonewalled everybody, could be a OG prospect.

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02/16/10 - PRO POTENTIAL: For a team that suffered through back-to-back losing seasons, the Hoosiers sure are raising a lot of eyebrows in the NFL ranks. Indiana will send four players to the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis later this month, and IU should be well-represented come draft weekend. OT Rodger Saffold - Saffold was a four-year starter in Bloomington and he was one of the standouts during the week of practice leading up to the East-West Shrine game. Saffold has good footwork and will be an intriguing prospect for NFL teams.

01/20/10 - EAST-WEST SHRINE RISERS: OT Roger Saffold, Indiana: It's hard to argue anyone but Saffold was the best player on the field this week. He was strong, moved his feet well in pass protection and when drive-blocking gave good effort through the end of plays, and was mobile enough to hit targets at the second level. Some scouts will project him inside, but it appears the 3.5-year starter at left tackle should at least get a chance to prove he can handle those responsibilities. A third-round selection seems likely for Saffold at this point in the process. - Chad Reuter, The Sports Xchange, NFLDraftScout.com

01/19/10 - East-West Shrine Tuesday Practice: The matchup between Ole Miss defensive end Greg Hardy and Indiana tackle Roger Saffold was worth the price of the flight to Orlando. Saffold controlled Hardy in most one-on-one drills, eating up a spin move, turning him and allowing him no space in which to work. - Chad Reuter, The Sports Xchange, NFLDraftScout.com

01/18/10 - East-West Shrine Monday Practice: Indiana offensive tackle Roger Saffold is a player to watch - the explosion he displayed coming out of his stance and his mobility to the second level were impressive, even without pads on. On one play, he gave Purdue defensive tackle Mike Neal a good ride off the snap, and Neal has plenty of strength himself. Saffold has the strength and footwork to be among the 10 tackles potentially selected in the top 100 this year. - Chad Reuter, The Sports Xchange, NFLDraftScout.com
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Roy did you happen to notice this guy during the Shrine game? Rodger Saffold OT 6'5" 305 Indiana. The press on him was he stonewalled everybody, could be a OG prospect.
Yes, I saw him on a couple of plays. I was more focused on Kyle Calloway on the other side to be honest. I'm trying to get a feel for which round Saffold would be a value at the LG. If Mike Johnson and Jon Asamoah are off the board before we pick in the 3rd, then I may be willing to "reach" for this guy. First, I want to see what he does at the Combine and get a feel for his strength and agility.
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