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Old 03-08-2009, 01:34 AM
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I like him. He's probably a 2nd round pick before we even get to our pick. I don't like him so much that I would trade up for him. His Combine numbers are not consistent with a ZBS guy. I like Eric Wood and Alex Mack just as much if not more and can probably get them later on in the draft.

My list has quite a bit of variables that I don't have the time to go through. A part of it has to do with probability that a player will be available compared to players I have around him. Some people call that "value" or whatever. In my estimate, Unger is currently overvalued.
HIs numbers might not be wat YOU want but his play on the feild speaks volumes for his ability to play in a ZB scheme. Ill go on record right now and say if he is selected by a team that runs it he will be an allpro. He is the best second level blocker I have ever seen in college. The only thing he is lacking right now is strength. That can be fixed. If he does get stronger IMO he has a chance on being one of the best OL to come out of this draft.
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Old 03-08-2009, 11:24 AM
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HIs numbers might not be wat YOU want but his play on the feild speaks volumes for his ability to play in a ZB scheme.

IMO he has a chance on being one of the best OL to come out of this draft.
We all have opinions. I just think that Eric Wood will be better than Unger. Especially since I've seen mock drafts where Unger is drafted by the Steelers in the 1st round, I think Wood will be better value.
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Old 03-08-2009, 01:52 PM
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We all have opinions. I just think that Eric Wood will be better than Unger. Especially since I've seen mock drafts where Unger is drafted by the Steelers in the 1st round, I think Wood will be better value.
I agree we all have opinions and I was just throwing mine out there. I wasnt trying to be a smart ass and act like you were wrong. Hope you didnt take it that way.
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Old 03-08-2009, 11:06 PM
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HIs numbers might not be wat YOU want but his play on the feild speaks volumes for his ability to play in a ZB scheme. Ill go on record right now and say if he is selected by a team that runs it he will be an allpro. He is the best second level blocker I have ever seen in college. The only thing he is lacking right now is strength. That can be fixed. If he does get stronger IMO he has a chance on being one of the best OL to come out of this draft.
I don't think his versatility should be discounted. First, I think it says a lot about his athletic ablity that he successful played LT and C in the same season. Also, I think it says a lot about his understanding of the game and his technical ability. Especially, though, with teams only dressing 7 linemen most games, he offers a flexibility that is almost invaluable, IMO
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Old 03-08-2009, 11:14 PM
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I don't think his versatility should be discounted. First, I think it says a lot about his athletic ablity that he successful played LT and C in the same season. Also, I think it says a lot about his understanding of the game and his technical ability. Especially, though, with teams only dressing 7 linemen most games, he offers a flexibility that is almost invaluable, IMO
If he were available in the second round we will be making a big mistake not taking him. I stand by what I said earlier. He could end up one of the best OL to come out of this draft.
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Old 03-09-2009, 01:47 AM
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If he were available in the second round we will be making a big mistake not taking him. I stand by what I said earlier. He could end up one of the best OL to come out of this draft.
Which is why I predict him to be gone by the 33rd pick.
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Old 03-09-2009, 10:56 AM
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Which is why I predict him to be gone by the 33rd pick.
No disagreement here. Which is why he has come off my board. I'm not looking to trade down to get him nor would I trade up to get him. It is more a matter of where we are on the draft slots and where I see him coming off the board.
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Old 03-09-2009, 08:14 PM
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Here is a dumb question, so, if a guy isn't on your list but he slips from where you thought he'd be, how do you know to draft him as excellent value. probably you have another list to protect against overlooking a great value.
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Old 03-09-2009, 08:29 PM
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Here is a dumb question, so, if a guy isn't on your list but he slips from where you thought he'd be, how do you know to draft him as excellent value. probably you have another list to protect against overlooking a great value.
Well, since I don't run the Texans, it doesn't really matter. This is my list to use on draft day so I can compare what I would have done compared to the Texans.

I don't have scouts all over the country and millions of dollars invested in research. Just a couple of web sites and my own peepers to determine who I'd want and when. After the draft, I can go back to this list and say "I told you so" when a guy I wanted outperforms the guy the Texans drafted.

I have no desire whatsoever of trying to rank over 300 players in terms of fit and need for the Texans. My point is to show that I can do more with less. There are plenty of websites that rank every college player. What I try to do is to simply distill all those choices into 50 or so players who would be a good addition to the Texans roster.

Undoubtedly, the Texans will most likely draft some players who are not My Guys. That's when I feel vindicated in complaining. Sometimes, they do pick one of my guys - Antwaun Molden, and I'm pleasantly surprised. I feel especially biased in hoping those players get on the field and make contributions.

So, if Unger just happens to be available at #45 and I draft William Moore instead, I think I can live with that. However, I seriously doubt that Unger lasts that long, so it's kind of a moot point.
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Old 03-12-2009, 10:04 PM
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If he were available in the second round we will be making a big mistake not taking him. I stand by what I said earlier. He could end up one of the best OL to come out of this draft.
After some consideration, I've decided to put Unger back on the list. Still think it's a moot point, but I think I really want him more than LeSean McCoy. Afterall, there are other RBs who may be available later in the draft, but not many versatile OL. So, to keep things concise, Unger will replace McCoy on the My Guys draft board on its next update. I also think I'll be adding another USC Trojan.
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Old 03-13-2009, 02:48 AM
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These are my absolute favorite players in this draft.

BJ Raji DT
Clay Matthews OLB
Max Unger C
Donald Brown RB
Victor Harris CB
Darius Butler CB
Rashad Johnson S
T McKenzie OLB
Emanual Cook S
Jarron Gilbert DE
Gartrell Johnson RB
Pat White QB

If we come out of this draft with any 2 of these guys I will be happy happy happy.
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