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Old 03-06-2009, 11:01 PM
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As the March Madness buzz is starting up, I've decided that 64 is the magic number. Here they are with the fat trimmed.


1 LB Aaron Curry Wake Forest 6' 1 3/4" 254 4.52
2 DT B.J. Raji Boston College 6' 1 1/2" 337 5.12
3 CB Vontae Davis Illinois 6' 0" 204 4.40
4 LB Clay Matthews USC 6 '3 1/8" 240 4.62
5 DE Brian Orakpo Texas 6' 3" 263 4.63
6 DE Everette Brown Florida St. 6' 1 1/2" 256 4.66
7 DT Peria Jerry Ole Miss 6' 3" 295 4.98
8 RB Donald Brown Connecticut 5' 10" 210 4.48
9 DE Aaron Maybin Penn St 6' 3 3/4" 249 4.78
10 RB LeSean McCoy Pittsburgh 5' 11" 210 4.49
11 S William Moore Missouri 6' 1" 226 4.50
12 DT Ziggy Hood Missouri 6' 2 7/8" 300 4.88
13 OC Eric Wood Louisville 6' 4" 310 5.19
14 DE Paul Kruger Utah 6' 4 1/4" 263 4.83
15 S Patrick Chung Oregon 5' 11" 212 4.49
16 DE Robert Ayers Tennessee 6' 3 1/8" 272 4.77
17 OC Alex Mack California 6' 4" 314 5.12
18 DT Sen'Derrick Marks Auburn 6' 1" 295 5.00
19 DE Lawrence Sidbury Richmond 6' 2 3/8" 266 4.57
20 RB Andre Brown NC State 6' 0 1/8" 224 4.47
21 LB Gerald McGrath Southern Miss 6' 2" 231 4.49
22 RB Shonn Greene Iowa 5' 10.5" 227 4.65
23 S Rashad Johnson Alabama 6' 0" 203 4.49
24 TE Shawn Nelson Southern Miss 6' 5" 240 4.52
25 S Chip Vaughn Wake Forest 6' 1" 221 4.45
26 RB Rashad Jennings Liberty 6' 1" 231 4.58
27 WR Mike Thomas Arizona 5' 8" 195 4.35
28 RB Cedric Peerman Virginia 5' 10" 216 4.39
29 LB Dannell Ellerbe Georgia 6' 1" 236 4.63
30 OC A.Q. Shipley Penn St 6' 1" 304 5.19
31 S Chris Clemons Clemson 6' 0" 208 4.38
32 S David Bruton Notre Dame 6' 2" 219 4.41
33 OC Antoine Caldwell Alabama 6' 4" 307 5.21
34 OG Gerald Cadogan Penn St 6' 5" 309 4.99
35 DT Corvey Irvin Georgia 6' 3" 301 4.96
36 RB Ian Johnson Boise State 5' 11" 212 4.42
37 QB Stephen McGee Texas A&M 6' 3" 223 4.61
38 DT Alex Magee Purdue 6' 2 5/8" 298 5.03
39 S C.J. Spillman Marshall 6' 0" 190 4.45
40 RB Glen Coffee Alabama 6' 0" 209 4.52
41 S Darcell McBath Texas Tech 6' 1" 199 4.58
42 RB Kory Sheets Purdue 5' 11 1/8" 208 4.39
43 LB Scott McKillop Pittsburgh 6' 1" 243 4.72
44 QB John Parker Wilson Alabama 6' 2" 215 4.76
45 RB Javarris Williams Tenn State 5' 9 1/2" 223 4.51
46 DE Stryker Sulak Missouri 6' 4 1/2" 251 4.70
47 DT Darryl Richard Ga Tech 6' 3" 306 4.99
48 DT Terrence Taylor Michigan 6' 1" 314 5.21
49 LB Lee Robinson Alcorn State 6' 2" 249 4.74
50 DT Roy Miller Texas 6' 1" 310 4.98
51 DT Dorell Scott Clemson 6' 4" 312 4.95
52 DT Ra'Shon Harris Oregon 6' 4" 300 4.99
53 S Keith Fitzhugh Mississippi St. 5' 10" 210 4.56
54 DT Myron Pryor Kentucky 6' 0 1/4" 319 5.08
55 LB Stephen Hodge TCU 6' 0" 234 4.58
56 LB Cody Brown Connecticut 6' 2" 244 4.76
57 DT Terrence Knighton Temple 6' 3" 321 5.21
58 DE Will Davis Illinois 6' 2" 262 4.84
59 LB Victor Butler Oregon St 6' 2" 248 4.77
60 WR Kevin Ogletree Virginia 6' 1" 196 4.38
61 WR Demetrius Byrd LSU 6' 0" 199 4.35
62 DE Pierre Walters E. Illinois 6' 4" 269 4.78
63 RB Marlon Lucky Nebraska 5' 11" 216 4.55
64 QB David Johnson Tulsa 6' 2" 217 4.76
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Old 03-07-2009, 12:05 AM
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As the March Madness buzz is starting up, I've decided that 64 is the magic number. Here they are with the fat trimmed.


1 LB Aaron Curry Wake Forest 6' 1 3/4" 254 4.52
2 DT B.J. Raji Boston College 6' 1 1/2" 337 5.12
3 CB Vontae Davis Illinois 6' 0" 204 4.40
4 LB Clay Matthews USC 6 '3 1/8" 240 4.62
5 DE Brian Orakpo Texas 6' 3" 263 4.63
6 DE Everette Brown Florida St. 6' 1 1/2" 256 4.66
7 DT Peria Jerry Ole Miss 6' 3" 295 4.98
8 RB Donald Brown Connecticut 5' 10" 210 4.48
9 DE Aaron Maybin Penn St 6' 3 3/4" 249 4.78
10 RB LeSean McCoy Pittsburgh 5' 11" 210 4.49
11 S William Moore Missouri 6' 1" 226 4.50
12 DT Ziggy Hood Missouri 6' 2 7/8" 300 4.88
13 OC Eric Wood Louisville 6' 4" 310 5.19
14 DE Paul Kruger Utah 6' 4 1/4" 263 4.83
15 S Patrick Chung Oregon 5' 11" 212 4.49
16 DE Robert Ayers Tennessee 6' 3 1/8" 272 4.77
17 OC Alex Mack California 6' 4" 314 5.12
18 DT Sen'Derrick Marks Auburn 6' 1" 295 5.00
19 DE Lawrence Sidbury Richmond 6' 2 3/8" 266 4.57
20 RB Andre Brown NC State 6' 0 1/8" 224 4.47
21 LB Gerald McGrath Southern Miss 6' 2" 231 4.49
22 RB Shonn Greene Iowa 5' 10.5" 227 4.65
23 S Rashad Johnson Alabama 6' 0" 203 4.49
24 TE Shawn Nelson Southern Miss 6' 5" 240 4.52
25 S Chip Vaughn Wake Forest 6' 1" 221 4.45
26 RB Rashad Jennings Liberty 6' 1" 231 4.58
27 WR Mike Thomas Arizona 5' 8" 195 4.35
28 RB Cedric Peerman Virginia 5' 10" 216 4.39
29 LB Dannell Ellerbe Georgia 6' 1" 236 4.63
30 OC A.Q. Shipley Penn St 6' 1" 304 5.19
31 S Chris Clemons Clemson 6' 0" 208 4.38
32 S David Bruton Notre Dame 6' 2" 219 4.41
33 OC Antoine Caldwell Alabama 6' 4" 307 5.21
34 OG Gerald Cadogan Penn St 6' 5" 309 4.99
35 DT Corvey Irvin Georgia 6' 3" 301 4.96
36 RB Ian Johnson Boise State 5' 11" 212 4.42
37 QB Stephen McGee Texas A&M 6' 3" 223 4.61
38 DT Alex Magee Purdue 6' 2 5/8" 298 5.03
39 S C.J. Spillman Marshall 6' 0" 190 4.45
40 RB Glen Coffee Alabama 6' 0" 209 4.52
41 S Darcell McBath Texas Tech 6' 1" 199 4.58
42 RB Kory Sheets Purdue 5' 11 1/8" 208 4.39
43 LB Scott McKillop Pittsburgh 6' 1" 243 4.72
44 QB John Parker Wilson Alabama 6' 2" 215 4.76
45 RB Javarris Williams Tenn State 5' 9 1/2" 223 4.51
46 DE Stryker Sulak Missouri 6' 4 1/2" 251 4.70
47 DT Darryl Richard Ga Tech 6' 3" 306 4.99
48 DT Terrence Taylor Michigan 6' 1" 314 5.21
49 LB Lee Robinson Alcorn State 6' 2" 249 4.74
50 DT Roy Miller Texas 6' 1" 310 4.98
51 DT Dorell Scott Clemson 6' 4" 312 4.95
52 DT Ra'Shon Harris Oregon 6' 4" 300 4.99
53 S Keith Fitzhugh Mississippi St. 5' 10" 210 4.56
54 DT Myron Pryor Kentucky 6' 0 1/4" 319 5.08
55 LB Stephen Hodge TCU 6' 0" 234 4.58
56 LB Cody Brown Connecticut 6' 2" 244 4.76
57 DT Terrence Knighton Temple 6' 3" 321 5.21
58 DE Will Davis Illinois 6' 2" 262 4.84
59 LB Victor Butler Oregon St 6' 2" 248 4.77
60 WR Kevin Ogletree Virginia 6' 1" 196 4.38
61 WR Demetrius Byrd LSU 6' 0" 199 4.35
62 DE Pierre Walters E. Illinois 6' 4" 269 4.78
63 RB Marlon Lucky Nebraska 5' 11" 216 4.55
64 QB David Johnson Tulsa 6' 2" 217 4.76
Is this youre Texans big board? How do you place a round value on these guys?
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Old 03-07-2009, 10:57 AM
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Is this youre Texans big board? How do you place a round value on these guys?
Yes.

Whoever the top player is in the round I'm drafting in will be their round value.
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Old 03-07-2009, 11:52 AM
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Yes.

Whoever the top player is in the round I'm drafting in will be their round value.
Roy, You don't have Unger on the list. If that wasn't an oversight, can you explain what you don't like about him? I really like him from the limited stuff I've seen. I think he can be an Eric Steinbach type player- in regards to his versatility... I think he played all 5 OL positions during his career.
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Old 03-07-2009, 03:42 PM
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Roy, You don't have Unger on the list. If that wasn't an oversight, can you explain what you don't like about him?
I like him. He's probably a 2nd round pick before we even get to our pick. I don't like him so much that I would trade up for him. His Combine numbers are not consistent with a ZBS guy. I like Eric Wood and Alex Mack just as much if not more and can probably get them later on in the draft.

My list has quite a bit of variables that I don't have the time to go through. A part of it has to do with probability that a player will be available compared to players I have around him. Some people call that "value" or whatever. In my estimate, Unger is currently overvalued.
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Old 03-08-2009, 03:34 AM
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I like him. He's probably a 2nd round pick before we even get to our pick. I don't like him so much that I would trade up for him. His Combine numbers are not consistent with a ZBS guy. I like Eric Wood and Alex Mack just as much if not more and can probably get them later on in the draft.

My list has quite a bit of variables that I don't have the time to go through. A part of it has to do with probability that a player will be available compared to players I have around him. Some people call that "value" or whatever. In my estimate, Unger is currently overvalued.
HIs numbers might not be wat YOU want but his play on the feild speaks volumes for his ability to play in a ZB scheme. Ill go on record right now and say if he is selected by a team that runs it he will be an allpro. He is the best second level blocker I have ever seen in college. The only thing he is lacking right now is strength. That can be fixed. If he does get stronger IMO he has a chance on being one of the best OL to come out of this draft.
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Old 03-08-2009, 12:24 PM
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HIs numbers might not be wat YOU want but his play on the feild speaks volumes for his ability to play in a ZB scheme.

IMO he has a chance on being one of the best OL to come out of this draft.
We all have opinions. I just think that Eric Wood will be better than Unger. Especially since I've seen mock drafts where Unger is drafted by the Steelers in the 1st round, I think Wood will be better value.
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Old 03-09-2009, 12:06 AM
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HIs numbers might not be wat YOU want but his play on the feild speaks volumes for his ability to play in a ZB scheme. Ill go on record right now and say if he is selected by a team that runs it he will be an allpro. He is the best second level blocker I have ever seen in college. The only thing he is lacking right now is strength. That can be fixed. If he does get stronger IMO he has a chance on being one of the best OL to come out of this draft.
I don't think his versatility should be discounted. First, I think it says a lot about his athletic ablity that he successful played LT and C in the same season. Also, I think it says a lot about his understanding of the game and his technical ability. Especially, though, with teams only dressing 7 linemen most games, he offers a flexibility that is almost invaluable, IMO
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