At The Combine

mussop · #1 02-26-2009, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by James

Probably not the appropriate spot for this post, however; I was perusing the old draft pick value chart, considering some mock draft possibilities, when I realized that either Stafford, Sanchez, or (now a bit more likely) both, will be there at 15. After the 15th pick though, the Jets, Bucs, Bears, and Lions are in some need of a QB. Whether its both or just Sanchez, it would (wouldn't it?) suit the Lions to take the best tackle (J Smith) #1 and trade us their 3rd to move up . . .wouldn't it? Perhaps just dreaming . . .

Check this thread out its already been talked about. I still think this is one of our best shots at trading down. No way Detroit drafts a QB first. I just dont believe it. The pick will be Curry or (more likely) Monroe. If one of the top QB's fall they will have to jump in front of a few other teams to assure they get one. Surrendering a 3rd to make sure they get their QB of the future isnt out of the question.

Roy P · #2 02-26-2009, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by mussop

Check this thread out its already been talked about.

Surrendering a 3rd to make sure they get their QB of the future isnt out of the question.

I'd love to trade down and get more picks, but let's step back a minute. The Detroit Lions could very well bundle some picks to the Patriots for the opportunity to pay Matt Cassel to play QB. He is the safest QB they could get because they have seen the level of play he's capable of in the NFL.

The San Diego Chargers are behind us with Whitehurst, Voler, and Rivers. Why wouldn't the Lions just trade up to #16 instead of #15? They just need to get ahead of the Jets, right?

papabear · #3 02-26-2009, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Roy P

The San Diego Chargers are behind us with Whitehurst, Voler, and Rivers. Why wouldn't the Lions just trade up to #16 instead of #15? They just need to get ahead of the Jets, right?

That's simple....because we just called the lions and told them that the jets were on the other line. How about you handle the scouting and I handle the trades

Roy P · #4 02-26-2009, 10:41 AM

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That's simple....because we just called the lions and told them that the jets were on the other line. How about you handle the scouting and I handle the trades

If you are going to handle the trades, then make the deal with the Jets. That way we don't have to drop down to #20, we only have to drop to #17.

painekiller · #5 02-26-2009, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Roy P

If you are going to handle the trades, then make the deal with the Jets. That way we don't have to drop down to #20, we only have to drop to #17.

And what the heck do you want at 17? I want to drop completely out of the 1st and gather a bunch of 2nd round picks. That is when the value seems to outway the questions.

papabear · #6 02-26-2009, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by painekiller

And what the heck do you want at 17? I want to drop completely out of the 1st and gather a bunch of 2nd round picks. That is when the value seems to outway the questions.

I would have no problem moving back several times and ending up with several picks in the second...and maybe a couple extra for the third too

Roy P · #7 02-26-2009, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by painekiller

And what the heck do you want at 17? I want to drop completely out of the 1st and gather a bunch of 2nd round picks. That is when the value seems to outway the questions.

I don't know yet who's going to be at #17. If Orakpo is there still at #15, I might not want to trade down. Maybe Vontae Davis at #17, if the Saints don't draft him at #14. Perhaps, BJ Raji is still sitting there or perhaps Aaron Curry or Michael Crabtree. I just don't know right now.

What I do know is that this draft does not appear to have a bunch of guys that meet all of my measurables. There are a lot of questionable players who may or may not make much of themselves. I suppose, that is your reasoning for wanting many 2nd round picks. My problem is, how many of those players we are expecting to be available in the 2nd round, end up being selected in the 1st round.

I've seen Clay Matthews and Donald Brown beginning to move up boards. Lawrence Sidbury should be climbing up shortly. The OC's Unger, Mack, and Woods are moving up. I may have 2nd round picks that I can only use on players like William Moore and Michael Johnson (guys who were 1st rounders, but were bumped down and out). It's still to early to tell. Heck, Rang has the Colts drafting Ziggy Hood in the 1st round now!

painekiller · #8 02-26-2009, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Roy P

I've seen Clay Matthews and Donald Brown beginning to move up boards. Lawrence Sidbury should be climbing up shortly. The OC's Unger, Mack, and Woods are moving up. I may have 2nd round picks that I can only use on players like William Moore and Michael Johnson (guys who were 1st rounders, but were bumped down and out). It's still to early to tell. Heck, Rang has the Colts drafting Ziggy Hood in the 1st round now!

If there was someway to move around and come out of day one with Clay Matthews and Donald Brown then I would be all for it.

I'm scared we are going to come out of day one with Michael Johnson and William Moore. Two guys who I have said have bigger questions than I am willing to try and answer on day one.

And BTW, I have not been able to see why Ziggy has not been considered a 1st rounder before now.