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Old 01-16-2020, 09:20 AM
nunusguy nunusguy is offline
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Yesterday was terrible. I'd fire O'Brien if I was in charge and had any real intention of winning a super bowl. I'd fire GM O'Brien even if I didn't want to win the super bowl.

But honestly there are about 5 good NFL coaches, a dozen guys who are net neutrals, and 15 idiots. We landed in the top 8 of the NFL with the worst GM in the league and one of the dozen mediocre coaches.

That's how good Watson is. Normally I'd hesitate to fire a mediocre coach when your replacement is likely to be worse. But I have to figure any great coach would want to coach Deshaun Watson. That means guys who normally wouldn't take our calls would line up for the job. You only have to get like 2 or 3 things right as a coach and you win the title with Watson.

Throw $15 million a year at Tony Dungy to be the HC and to hire the GM, and then give him like double what everyone else spends to spend on staff. Everyone wants the next young mind as their HC, but half of those guys screw up the organizational stuff. Let Dungy play a HC role and hire the young mind and give him a large OC salary and offensive autonomy. It's not like you can screw up a Deshaun Watson offense. Then let Dungy cobble together a defense made of veterans and high level defensive coaches.
Hey Barrett how long have you been such a big fan of former Indy coach Dungy ? Why do you like him so much, because of his well know ability
as a mentor of the players ?
Do you see a role for your boy Brian Cushing (currently a rookie coach for O'Brien), in the Dungy regime ? Maybe Cush could be the DC though of course historically that's been Dungys forte ?
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Old 01-16-2020, 09:35 AM
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Hey Barrett how long have you been such a big fan of former Indy coach Dungy ? Why do you like him so much, because of his well know ability
as a mentor of the players ?
Do you see a role for your boy Brian Cushing (currently a rookie coach for O'Brien), in the Dungy regime ? Maybe Cush could be the DC though of course historically that's been Dungys forte ?
I don't love Dungy or at least I haven't in the past. I thought he was a solid coach but never thought much more. That's why I think you give him tools to put together a great staff. His cover 2 system won't work in today's NFL because safeties can't murder guys who go up the seam.

So why did I bring him up? It's a combination of factors.

1. I think we have no grownups in the room right now.
2. I think you should hire the HC before the GM. Then let the HC have input in GM hire.
3. I think you then need a GM who is on equal footing with the HC.
4. I think if you have a talent like Watson your offense will be fine.
5. I think the trades we have made have handicapped our ability to get better.
6. I think someone needs to cobble together a defense with mid level vets.
7. I think if you have a defensive HC it boosts your D automatically.
8. I think we are hiring last if we fire BOB right now so in order to get a good candidate it has to be someone not truly available.

All of those things made Dungy come to mind.
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Old 01-16-2020, 09:53 AM
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This may make some incredulous but the guy I think about is...Dom Capers. It wasn't his fault that he was saddled with an expansion team. Now it's not an expansion team and I'd be interested to see how he would tweak the defense.
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Old 01-16-2020, 02:04 PM
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This may make some incredulous but the guy I think about is...Dom Capers. It wasn't his fault that he was saddled with an expansion team. Now it's not an expansion team and I'd be interested to see how he would tweak the defense.
Dom Capers ? Wow that's an interesting idea and who am I to say,it might
a good move, maybe a stroke of genus but I don't think Cal Mcnair is
nearly secure enough to do something so controversial.
However Barrett would like it because he wants a defensive oriented HC as
I understand it.
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Old 01-17-2020, 04:26 PM
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Dom Capers. It wasn't his fault that he was saddled with an expansion team.
I think you meant to say saddled with Charley Casserly.
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Old 01-18-2020, 02:21 AM
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I think you meant to say saddled with Charley Casserly.
LOL...that too. Well, Chatty Cathy wasn't all bad. He did get Dom some pieces on defense like Aaron Glenn and Seth Payne. Just not enough of them.
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