Texans Training Camp

[HPF Bob]

So you must ignore John Harris since he's just a team mouthpiece? I prefer someone who actually knows some team sources and attends practices rather than someone who just puts numbers in a cuisinart and believes brilliance comes out.

If they are too pollyanna, like Harris, I just take it and feed it through a reality check before I buy into it but at least I'm hearing from somebody who is there.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

So you must ignore John Harris since he's just a team mouthpiece? I prefer someone who actually knows some team sources and attends practices rather than someone who just puts numbers in a cuisinart and believes brilliance comes out.

If they are too pollyanna, like Harris, I just take it and feed it through a reality check before I buy into it but at least I'm hearing from somebody who is there.

I just don't like guys whose career depends on access, because access depends on teams being happy. This means they can't ever be anything but a mouthpiece. So you aren't hearing from someone who is there, you are hearing what someone who is there wants you to hear. And the NFL is absolutely the worst about this. NFL teams are run by control freaks obsessed with controlling what is said in the media. So they 'leak' things to tame journalists to control the narrative. That's how every guy who leaves a team gets character assassinated after he's gone.

Barnwell is definitely too stat heavy sometimes, but he does plenty of stuff that isn't. Guys like Werder and Clayton only do "here's what my sources are telling me" stuff.

[Arky]

When it comes to analysis, I like listening to the Fantasy Football guys. I don't play Fantasy Football myself, but those guys got a better handle on the players who are getting hot, players that aren't, team defense and other assorted categories.... those guys take their fantasy football seriously..... I get more a more informed outlook from them than I do many of the talking heads...

Football Outsiders data is useless on game day. They aren't in the predicition/forecast business. They never participate in pickem's or publish who they like in an upcoming matchup. Their data is massaged after the game - a ranking system. Sure, many (all?) NFL teams subscribe to their "premium" service but who knows why? My guess is NFL teams have plenty of spare cash and if Johnny is doing it, we're going to do it, too... I maintain a coach or scout can glean more info from the (free) raw numbers and film than he can from FO data.... Is FO a useful tool worth shelling out money for? Not in my book....

[chuck]

CAUTION NECKS - FAKE NEWS

[HPF Bob]

Originally Posted by chuck

CAUTION NECKS - FAKE NEWS

They claim they are doing this to escape Houston heat. Yeah, well, if West Virginia is better, why not the Canadian rockies? Their first exhibition game didn't demonstrate any improvement.

If the Panthers cut this Byrd kid, we need to get him. There aren't five receivers in Texans camp better than this guy. He chewed our defenders up and split them out.

Watson exudes poise and looks like he's having fun out there. That gets infectuous.

It was nice to see Quesenberry playing. I hope he's able to make the team.