Texans Prefer Mahomes, Watson?

[painekiller]

So when did Ian become a member of our board?

[chuck]

I'm really amazed that BOB likes him. I don't doubt the information, it just surprises me because Watson and Mahomes, the other quarterback BOB is supposed to be in love with, could not be farther from what I understand BOB's ideal quarterback to be.

Maybe I misunderstand BOB then. If a quarterback is accurate and intelligent maybe he doesn't care if a guy is less like Tom Brady and more like Fran Tarkenton or Steve McNair.

But if so, then why is he hand-picking guys like Fitz, Hoyer, Mallett and Savage?

[Arky]

I wouldn't mind a few more members. I think more people would keep the daily comments going. I like to click in and get caught up on the latest but this place sometimes goes for days with no comments. And then sometimes, there's just not a lot to yak about.

Some of the larger Texan boards (to me, anyway) are polluted and diluted. A lot of blah-blah-blah. I don't Facebook, Tweet or smart phone (get off my lawn) and have always preferred the message board format. Still think it's the best way for a group to discuss a particular topic..

[Arky]

Originally Posted by chuck

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But if so, then why is he hand-picking guys like Fitz, Hoyer, Mallett and Savage?

IMHO, OB is not quite the QB guru he is portrayed as. Wasn't he a DE for Brown back in his playing days? He gets into coaching and somehow works his way up to QB coach of the New England Patriots "coaching" Tom Brady. He goes from defense to offense (round peg, square hole) and it's a role an up-and-coming coach would gladly accept, no? Quite the pelt on the wall....

I think coaching is quite a bit like many other blue collar type jobs. Whether you're an electrician, pipe-fitter, car salesman, whatever, you'll make a lot of mistakes as you learn your trade. I made some doozies learning a couple of trades and it does take several years before one becomes competent - competent enough to fix mistakes on the fly and do the job right in a reasonable amount of time. Right now, I believe OB is still learning on the job and I think he's at a point where he should be turning the corner.....

[popanot]

Originally Posted by chuck

... it just surprises me because Watson and Mahomes, the other quarterback BOB is supposed to be in love with, could not be farther from what I understand BOB's ideal quarterback to be.

I can't figure out what BOB wants in a QB other than 'good'. He's had tall ones, short ones, young ones, old ones, smart ones, dumb ones, big-arm ones, noodle-arm ones... The common denominator in all is that none have been good. Other than good and/or non-drive killer, I can't figure out what his type of QB is.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by chuck

I'm really amazed that BOB likes him. I don't doubt the information, it just surprises me because Watson and Mahomes, the other quarterback BOB is supposed to be in love with, could not be farther from what I understand BOB's ideal quarterback to be.

Maybe I misunderstand BOB then. If a quarterback is accurate and intelligent maybe he doesn't care if a guy is less like Tom Brady and more like Fran Tarkenton or Steve McNair.

But if so, then why is he hand-picking guys like Fitz, Hoyer, Mallett and Savage?

Fitz is actually pretty mobile and definitely a risk taker. And he's not particularly accurate.

Hoyer is the only guy on your list that could be described as smart and accurate, and he's the homeless man's version of smart and accurate.

I don't think anything O'Brien has done at QB for the Texans gives any indicator of what he likes. I think he has kicked QB down the road for his whole career here and gone with whatever was easily available (or what his GM gave him last year). I think his disregard of the QB position gives more reason to question his QB cred than any performance from the journeymen he's started.

[Blitzwood]

Originally Posted by painekiller

So when did Ian become a member of our board?

On a serious note, I strongly believe we need a somewhat mobile QB with this O-line, otherwise there's a good chance he'll be on the bench after a few games. And Watson is easily the most battle tested and accomplished QB of this draft. I also don't think BOB, as others have mentioned, is the QB guru some have made him out to be, or even the best game planner, but he's not bad either.

So because of that, I think him very likely wanting the QB with the most big game/championship experience is smart on his part. I thought our defense gave New England a good run for their money last year. And now with the possibility of Watson at the helm, and given his championship experience, I don't think the stage would be too big for him compared to all our other current options, FA or in the draft.

That being said, part of me thinks Mahhomes has more upside, but if BOB is in win now mode, Watson is the obvious smart selection here. Too many coaches have been fired over potential in QB's.

[Warren]

Some pretty good scouting reports on the QBs for my fellow codgers:

http://www.jsonline.com/story/sports...cks/100736988/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...zer/100817778/

[bikerack]

The latest is they don't think Watson will last to the point where they are willing/able to trade up to.

[chuck]

Originally Posted by bikerack

The latest is they don't think Watson will last to the point where they are willing/able to trade up to.

That's weird because I think it's Mahomes that will be gone (along with Trubisky) and that Watson may very well stick around for a while.

[Keith]

Sometimes I like to sit back and think...

I think this is a rather unpredictable first round.

I think that unpredictability will result in trades where teams will move up to get their guy.

I think the QBs will generally go higher than expected.

I think if the Texans love a guy, they ought to be talking again to the Browns, this time to move up to #12.

I think the Browns are bad at making football decisions, worse than the Texans.

I think if Rick Smith believes he can just sit at 25 and pick a QB, he's going to find a team move up to 24 and take his man.

[chuck]

Originally Posted by Keith

I think if the Texans love a guy, they ought to be talking again to the Browns, this time to move up to #12.

That would require the Texans taking Brock back so no thanks.

[Arky]

Originally Posted by Keith

Sometimes I like to sit back and think...

I think this is a rather unpredictable first round.

I think that unpredictability will result in trades where teams will move up to get their guy.

I think the QBs will generally go higher than expected.

I think if the Texans love a guy, they ought to be talking again to the Browns, this time to move up to #12.

I think the Browns are bad at making football decisions, worse than the Texans.

I think if Rick Smith believes he can just sit at 25 and pick a QB, he's going to find a team move up to 24 and take his man.

Good thinkin'!

But wouldn't it be just like the Texans to take neither QB nor Tackle with their first pick?

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by chuck

That's weird because I think it's Mahomes that will be gone (along with Trubisky) and that Watson may very well stick around for a while.

Right that's what I'm seeing in these mocks (not that any of them are necessarily reliable), which is of the big 3 they are drafted in this order: Truisby, MaHomes, and then Watson. Arizona is drafting at #13 and supposedly their HC continues to have a strong interest in drafting MaHomes to develop as the successor to Carson Palmer.
And this Davis Webb looks to be the real dark horse in the QB group but he still figures to be the fourth QB drafted.