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Old 04-18-2017, 09:21 AM
HPF Bob HPF Bob is offline
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We signed our last QB without the coach ever meeting him so...
Perhaps the only reason O'Brien didn't walk last winter was an ultimatum to get rid of Osweiler and give him his choice of QBs with their first pick in this draft.

Regardless, whomever the Texans pick will be "who we wanted all along" but I have the least confidence in Mahomes out of any of them. Unless the thinking is he'll be running for his life all year behind our shitty offensive line so we need someone who is used to throwing on the run.
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Old 04-18-2017, 11:20 AM
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Here is a good writeup on Mahomes rising in draft. Very accurate throws and 78 yards in the air ain't bad.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.sbnat...xans-cardinals
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Old 04-18-2017, 12:16 PM
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I don’t buy the report about O’Brien being in love with Mahomes. Scouting reports consistently describe Mahomes as a gunslinger who makes some terrible decisions and is at his best when he’s winging it rather than functioning within the system. O’Brien seems to want a guy who is going to execute the offense and who understands the value of taking what’s there and not forcing something. While O’Brien may recognize Mahomes’ talent and potential I’d think he also see him as someone who’s going to need a lot of reining in and work to break his bad habits, seemingly more than the typical rookie.
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Old 04-18-2017, 12:33 PM
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I don’t buy the report about O’Brien being in love with Mahomes. Scouting reports consistently describe Mahomes as a gunslinger who makes some terrible decisions and is at his best when he’s winging it rather than functioning within the system. O’Brien seems to want a guy who is going to execute the offense and who understands the value of taking what’s there and not forcing something. While O’Brien may recognize Mahomes’ talent and potential I’d think he also see him as someone who’s going to need a lot of reining in and work to break his bad habits, seemingly more than the typical rookie.
It's almost like the guys writing articles have no idea what's going on. The amount of draft coverage cracks me up. More is written on the draft than on the super bowl, and most of it fails to rise above the level of "fan in front of computer with an opinion". We know every GM in the league is currently lying to all of their media contacts and yet we still publish stories because there is such a market to read anything that gets published.
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Old 04-18-2017, 01:18 PM
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Perhaps the only reason O'Brien didn't walk last winter was an ultimatum to get rid of Osweiler and give him his choice of QBs with their first pick in this draft.
I've heard and read some speculation on that and what you say may not be far from the truth. I think OB was initially on board with Oz but eventually realized he (Oz) just wasn't that good. That, plus the fact he was unhappy he had to release his buddy (Godsey) led to him leveraging the scuttlebutt that several teams were interested in him at the time.

IMO, OB does have "the look" of a head coach. If you were making a Hollywood movie about football, he'd be the guy you'd choose as the head coach of Team A. But, his offense has gone downhill every year since he's got here. The offense has got to show improvement next year or I'd consider it no great shakes if he walked....
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Old 04-18-2017, 03:48 PM
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I really like the Mahommes kid, more than the others in the first. His dad was an MLB pitcher for a decade, plus his accuracy has been the most impressive out of the bunch. Trubisky , Watson, and Kizer finish my top 4. I have Webb behind Kaaya and Peterman, plus I think Webb is more of a gunslinger than all the others.

My Blackhorse is the Kelly kid out of Old Miss, I would take a flier on him in the 5th or 6th. I know he can be a knucklehead at times and hopefully he's grown up now, maybe if given the chance he could be a good signal caller like his uncle. I think he'd make a nice backup, possibly even a nice trade option if he stays out of trouble.
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Old 04-18-2017, 08:40 PM
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It was my impression that Osweiler's agent would not let him meet with the Texans because if the team decided they didn't like him, say, if the head coach decided he was a huge pussy, they would lose their leverage. So while I do believe that the FO forced BO on BOB, I do not see anything too spectacularly off about BOB's not talking to him ahead of time. A decent organization would obviously tell the agent to suck it, but what are you going to do?

Mahomes may end up being the Russell Wilson of this draft but it would shock me if BOB likes anything he sees. He looks nothing like an NFL quarterback. Tons of arms strength, decent accuracy in shorts, horrible footwork, takes off running at the first opportunity, on and on. I'm betting on Webb or Peterman. I can't see Watson, Kizer or Trubisky around at 25, and I can't see the Texans giving up picks to move up.

I'm also high on Kelly. (Sorry. I just saw what I did. Not on purpose, I promise.) I would Henson him in the later rounds because he obviously has the talent to play the game, unlike a lot of the guys you're drafting 6 or 7.
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Old 04-19-2017, 08:46 AM
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I certainly have no idea what the Texans are gonna do in this Draft but when it comes to QBs Davis Webb does seem more like the kind of guy O'Brien would prefer.
But given that defensive players represent the best part of this Draft they just might draft a defensive back or LB in the first round and wait to take a QB and some offensive tackle help with their second & mid-round picks.
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Old 04-19-2017, 09:22 AM
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I would be fine taking something else in the first round or even trading back if I was sure Webb would be available in the second. Since his stock has risen, I think the Texans would need to trade up in the second to get Webb before #57. So if that's the guy the Texans really want, they probably should draft him in the first and not take any chances.
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Old 04-19-2017, 11:31 AM
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I'm beginning to think two things, one is that Kaaya might be the best fit and if so you could wait on him. Two is that BOB needs to win now and given that he will want to draft someone at 25 that can contribute right away and that won't be a quarterback.
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