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[HPF Bob]

smh

Truth be told, the Texans (either Casserly or Smith) have been rancid with their second and third round picks since the beginning in 2002. Technically, their best one was Demeco Ryans but since he was the first pick of the second round, my brain made him an honorary first-rounder.

We gave up a pair of seconds to get Schaub which was either genius or retarded depending how you felt about the Schaub years and about the value of second-rounders.

Watson could use some polish but he has been the main cog in two runs at the National Championship so we know he plays/produces in big games. The other QBs we're discussing have never even sniffed a big game, much less stepped up in one. If he were an inch or two taller, Watson would be up there with Cam Newton.

This whole situation is so bad, I'm starting to warm to the idea of signing Jay Cutler, insulin pump and all.

[popanot]

I'd go so far as to draft 2 QBs this draft. One high (perhaps Mahomes) and one later (perhaps Webb or Kayaa) and may the best one win an opportunity. We piss away late picks on players that never amount to anything so why not gamble on QBs? Shoot, we might just get lucky where one is the franchise answer and the other brings some future trade value or is at least a serviceable backup.

It's mindboggling to see how many QBs this franchise has passed on over the last 5yrs. They drafted one a few years ago (Savage) and then never gave him a real shot at playing other than when they finally realized they had the worst QB in the league. If Savage has been that bad or questionable over the years, then why is he on the roster? If you didn't think Savage had a shot, why would you not take a draft flyer on a QB from a major program and who's had fairly good college success like a Cousins, Dak or McCarron? Romo fits the mindset of this franchise so perfectly you know it's happening (and will likely be an immense failure).

[Joshua]

Kudos to Barrett for compiling the draft picks used by the Texans and Patriots on QBs during the Tom Brady era. I actually was wondering this very thing the other day but never got around to looking it up.

At this point, I'm completely perplexed by the Texans. They've botched the QB position at a Cleveland Brown-level for virtually their entire existence. And there is no doubt that they have squandered 2nd and 3rd round picks by the bushel. But I'll be damned if it's not a pretty good roster aside for the QB position (which I admit is kinda like saying "other than that, how was the play, Ms. Lincoln?").

For instance, one of the discussions I've had with some friends lately is what team would you trade rosters with, if you leave out the QB position. We were all having a hard time finding one. Maybe Denver? Pittsburgh? This is all to say I don't know what to make of the Texans. While I can find plenty to fault them for, if they somehow stumbled into an above-average QB, I think they're one of the best teams in the league.

[HPF Bob]

What was so bad about Weeden? All he did was win when we gave him a chance. I don't think we are finding our QBTF this year. We're just looking for someone to give us a fair shot in the postseason.

[chuck]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

What was so bad about Weeden? All he did was win when we gave him a chance. I don't think we are finding our QBTF this year. We're just looking for someone to give us a fair shot in the postseason.

The Texans would have won the Super Bowl last year with average quarterback play. Who is average? Savage? Weeden? Cutler? I don't know, but the team sure as hell needs to find one, quick.

If they somehow found a quarterback that could win games for you? Well, I have no idea what that would be like.

[Arky]

They were making the point yesterday on the radio yesterday that we Texan fans seem to look at the drafts in a vacuum - and we do. Compare the Texans recent drafts to any other team.....nobody has perfect drafts.

True, not too many QB's drafted in the last 10 years but you have Senor Schaub taking up about 7 of those years. He wasn't losing his starters job especially with Kubes in command. Following that era, you got OB trying to convince us that Fitz/Hoyer/Mallett, et al were good QB's. So, post-Schaub, they've tried to fill the position - they're just not very good at it.... All this culminated with the Oz mistake - heavily paying for a guy who was unable to dink & dunk.

So, while we're all honing our critiques, how would YOU fix the QB position?

Draft? A young guy will most likely will need a year or two to develop.... Romo? Kinda broken...
Savage?

[barrett]

Originally Posted by Arky

They were making the point yesterday on the radio yesterday that we Texan fans seem to look at the drafts in a vacuum - and we do. Compare the Texans recent drafts to any other team.....nobody has perfect drafts.

True, not too many QB's drafted in the last 10 years but you have Senor Schaub taking up about 7 of those years. He wasn't losing his starters job especially with Kubes in command. Following that era, you got OB trying to convince us that Fitz/Hoyer/Mallett, et al were good QB's. So, post-Schaub, they've tried to fill the position - they're just not very good at it.... All this culminated with the Oz mistake - heavily paying for a guy who was unable to dink & dunk.

So, while we're all honing our critiques, how would YOU fix the QB position?

Draft? A young guy will most likely will need a year or two to develop.... Romo? Kinda broken...
Savage?

Yes we had Schaub. And the patriots had TOM BRADY and kept drafting QBs. That was my point. It's almost like a GM ought to consider more than just the current year. You don't not draft a rookie because he will take a year to develop. You draft a rookie now BECAUSE he will take a year or two to develop.

It's embarrassing we're this bad at QB. It's more embarrassing how little we've done to try fixing that.

So what would I do? I'd draft a QB on the first 2 days of the draft every year until I had one that could win a super bowl for me. Then after I had that one, I'd still draft one every other year or 3, because decent backup QBs cost tons of money on the market but are cheap to draft. I guess I'd consider copying the team that beats the rest of the league every year.

[Arky]

Originally Posted by barrett

Yes we had Schaub. And the patriots had TOM BRADY and kept drafting QBs. That was my point. It's almost like a GM ought to consider more than just the current year. You don't not draft a rookie because he will take a year to develop. You draft a rookie now BECAUSE he will take a year or two to develop.

Ya, all those drafted Patriot QB's and how much game time did they see? Cassel got some time one year during a Brady injury, that's about it. "2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, and 7th on 5 QBs". At least they had good seats to watch the GOAT. I'm guessing during the Schaub era, the Texans figured other areas of the team needed attention....

Besides Garapollo, not too many people are coveting back-up Patriot QB's. Well, except for the Texans... Cassel/Hoyer/Mallett, meh..

It's embarrassing we're this bad at QB. It's more embarrassing how little we've done to try fixing that.

I'm not embarrassed. That's their ****-up, not mine.

So what would I do? I'd draft a QB on the first 2 days of the draft every year until I had one that could win a super bowl for me. Then after I had that one, I'd still draft one every other year or 3, because decent backup QBs cost tons of money on the market but are cheap to draft.

That may or may not work. Worst case, you turn into Cleveland. Best case, you find one - possibly a gem like Dak Prescott (who I will be very interested to watch in his sophomore season).... They really should draft one this year. Just hope whoever he is can see some action before the defense goes into a down-cycle...

I guess I'd consider copying the team that beats the rest of the league every year.

Well, we are New England South afterall. All we lack is the GOAT coach and the GOAT QB....

[barrett]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

What was so bad about Weeden? All he did was win when we gave him a chance. I don't think we are finding our QBTF this year. We're just looking for someone to give us a fair shot in the postseason.

That is how bad franchises operate. "Why bother with a QB when we might get a guy off the scrap heap to be average?"

That is how you end up bad at QB for a decade instead of a season.