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Old 03-16-2017, 10:36 PM
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In the last 10 drafts we have used a 4th, 5th, and 7th on 3 QBs. During that same time the Patriots have had GOAT Tom Brady and still used a 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, and 7th on 5 QBs.
I'd just like to highlight this post for its excellence and to underscore the difference between an organization run by people who want to win and an organization run by people who are content to milk money out of ignorant necks.

Buford's all-time favorite Texans quarterback was drafted in the third round, you know. Good old Dave Ragone. Second round pick that year? Anyone? That's right, Bennie Joppru, tight end. I believe he has as many catches for the Texans as I do. Other third rounders that year? The team had three for some reason. Seth Wand, who is, by far, the best Texan ever from Northwest Missouri State, and Antwan Peek, who is nowhere near the best Texan pass rusher from Cincinnati.

To be fair, Rasputin somehow picked Andre Johnson that draft. Of course word was he wanted Willis McGahee instead. Drafting a running back third overall seems like a very Rasputin thing to do. But in that draft he also selected Domanick Whateverhisnameis, who had a couple of pretty good years for the team, which is about right for a running back, which is why it is generally insane to draft one at number three overall.

Look at me. I'm slowly turning into Buford, lecturing all seven of us about shit everybody knows that happened years and years ago. Kids born the year AJ was drafted would be terrifyingly close to being able to drive a motor vehicle on public roadways by now. Hey, get off Buford's lawn! Oh, I forgot, Buford doesn't have a lawn. Step away from Buford's LeSabre! Put his cassettes back where you found them, you punks!
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Old 03-17-2017, 12:07 AM
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I think all seven of us think this too is an excellent post.

Like a generation of children who had never known a white president until two months ago, there is a generation of children who have never seen the Texans draft a first or second round quarterback.

#DoItForTheKids
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Old 03-17-2017, 12:34 AM
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#DoItForTheKids

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Old 03-17-2017, 09:53 AM
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smh

Truth be told, the Texans (either Casserly or Smith) have been rancid with their second and third round picks since the beginning in 2002. Technically, their best one was Demeco Ryans but since he was the first pick of the second round, my brain made him an honorary first-rounder.

We gave up a pair of seconds to get Schaub which was either genius or retarded depending how you felt about the Schaub years and about the value of second-rounders.

Watson could use some polish but he has been the main cog in two runs at the National Championship so we know he plays/produces in big games. The other QBs we're discussing have never even sniffed a big game, much less stepped up in one. If he were an inch or two taller, Watson would be up there with Cam Newton.

This whole situation is so bad, I'm starting to warm to the idea of signing Jay Cutler, insulin pump and all.
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Old 03-17-2017, 11:06 AM
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I'd go so far as to draft 2 QBs this draft. One high (perhaps Mahomes) and one later (perhaps Webb or Kayaa) and may the best one win an opportunity. We piss away late picks on players that never amount to anything so why not gamble on QBs? Shoot, we might just get lucky where one is the franchise answer and the other brings some future trade value or is at least a serviceable backup.

It's mindboggling to see how many QBs this franchise has passed on over the last 5yrs. They drafted one a few years ago (Savage) and then never gave him a real shot at playing other than when they finally realized they had the worst QB in the league. If Savage has been that bad or questionable over the years, then why is he on the roster? If you didn't think Savage had a shot, why would you not take a draft flyer on a QB from a major program and who's had fairly good college success like a Cousins, Dak or McCarron? Romo fits the mindset of this franchise so perfectly you know it's happening (and will likely be an immense failure).
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Old 03-17-2017, 12:43 PM
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Kudos to Barrett for compiling the draft picks used by the Texans and Patriots on QBs during the Tom Brady era. I actually was wondering this very thing the other day but never got around to looking it up.

At this point, I'm completely perplexed by the Texans. They've botched the QB position at a Cleveland Brown-level for virtually their entire existence. And there is no doubt that they have squandered 2nd and 3rd round picks by the bushel. But I'll be damned if it's not a pretty good roster aside for the QB position (which I admit is kinda like saying "other than that, how was the play, Ms. Lincoln?").

For instance, one of the discussions I've had with some friends lately is what team would you trade rosters with, if you leave out the QB position. We were all having a hard time finding one. Maybe Denver? Pittsburgh? This is all to say I don't know what to make of the Texans. While I can find plenty to fault them for, if they somehow stumbled into an above-average QB, I think they're one of the best teams in the league.
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Old 03-17-2017, 12:45 PM
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What was so bad about Weeden? All he did was win when we gave him a chance. I don't think we are finding our QBTF this year. We're just looking for someone to give us a fair shot in the postseason.
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Old 03-17-2017, 12:52 PM
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What was so bad about Weeden? All he did was win when we gave him a chance. I don't think we are finding our QBTF this year. We're just looking for someone to give us a fair shot in the postseason.
The Texans would have won the Super Bowl last year with average quarterback play. Who is average? Savage? Weeden? Cutler? I don't know, but the team sure as hell needs to find one, quick.

If they somehow found a quarterback that could win games for you? Well, I have no idea what that would be like.
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Old 03-17-2017, 01:52 PM
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What was so bad about Weeden? All he did was win when we gave him a chance. I don't think we are finding our QBTF this year. We're just looking for someone to give us a fair shot in the postseason.
That is how bad franchises operate. "Why bother with a QB when we might get a guy off the scrap heap to be average?"

That is how you end up bad at QB for a decade instead of a season.
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