Cause I'm Bored A : Pre All Star Games Mock

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Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Hard to do this before we know about free agent moves and the comp picks. Those will change the equation significantly.

I am already presuming Foster will be cut.

That is a major issue in doing these. In my drafts I am looking for OL and playmakers, what if we resign or sign the OL guys, then we are drafting backups. What if we sign a FA QB? then we are not looking at a guy in the 1st to 3rd rounds.

So I cannot wait until the FA signing start.

[Roy P]

Any computer simulation mock draft is only as good as the database you are using. I chose the latest updated Draftgeek draft list and the results were too good to be true.

#22 WR Laquon Treadwell
#52 NT Jarran Reed
# 85 TE Hunter Henry
#120 QB Dak Prescott (I was nervous about the pick since Kevin Hogan was chosen earlier in the round)
#159 OG Christian Westerman - too good to pass up here. Hoped that Kenyan Drake would last for my next pick.
#166 RB CJ Prosise (220lbs feature back - I'll take it)
#198 ILB Nick Vigil

I then did a CBS Draftline database draft on Fanspeak and came away with this:

#22 QB Paxton Lynch
#52 WR Josh Doctson
#85 RB Kenneth Dixon
#120 DE Matt Ioannidis
#159 NT Javon Hargrave
#166 TE Henry Krieger-Coble
#198 OLB Victor Ochi

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Used DraftGeek on this one, man their list is nuts

29: R1P29 QB JARED GOFF CALIFORNIA (2nd QB taken)
52: R2P21 DT VERNON BUTLER LOUISIANA TECH
85: R3P22 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS
93: R3P30 WR DE'RUNNYA WILSON MISSISSIPPI STATE
120: R4P21 RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS ARKANSAS
129: R4P30 OT REES ODHIAMBO BOISE STATE
159: R5P20 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE
166: R5P27 C JACK ALLEN MICHIGAN STATE
167: R5P28 CB CRE'VON LEBLANC FLORIDA ATLANTIC
198: R6P20 WR DEMARCUS AYERS HOUSTON

TRADE PARTNER:
ARIZONA CARDINALS GET:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22 (OLB JAYLON SMITH)

TEXANS RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 29 (QB JARED GOFF)
ROUND: 3 PICK: 30 (WR DE'RUNNYA WILSON)
ROUND: 4 PICK: 30 (OG/OT REES ODHIAMBO)
ROUND: 5 PICK: 28 (CB CRE'VON LEBLANC)

I was trying to to do Roy's no trade mock, but they offered me to much to drop 7 spots. Goff at 29, no way it happens IMO. But I take it.

I took two DTs, one will be a NT one a 5 tech DE. Not sure who will be what, but I can guess.

I also got the best TE in the draft in the 3rd round, I jumped. Crazy list to mock to.

Some of these are old names for me and some are new, I can't wait until we know the teams real needs after FA starts.

[Roy P]

The list seems ridiculous. Getting Goff at #29 and Hunter Henry in the 3rd round is just unbelievable. Then, you take a look team by team and it isn't too crazy.

[HPF Bob]

I took my own suggestion and made a pre-draft trade up in the first round to try to improve our QB options in the draft. As mentioned in another thread, the Eagles did not have a 2nd round pick so I offered our #1 (22) and #2 for Philly's #13 and was rejected. So I added our 5th (the 20th pick that round) and they took the bait. Later, I traded out of the 4th round to pick up a 5th and 6th from San Francisco, giving us a 1st, 3rd, two 5ths and 2 6ths.

Walter Football was the most recently updated so I used that one which had Carson Wentz ranked 10th on their big board. He was still there at #13.

13: R1P13 QB CARSON WENTZ NORTH DAKOTA STATE
85: R3P22 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
142: R5P3 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
166: R5P27 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA
198: R6P20 OT ALEX LEWIS NEBRASKA
210: R6P32 K ROBERTO AGUAYO FLORIDA STATE

All my guys after this seem to be folks with versatility and special teams potential other than Alex Lewis. Collins is a solid all-around back whose one major knock is ball security. Vannett disappeared with all the talent at OSU but CBS had him rated as the third-best TE who also can be used as a slot receiver or FB. Jones is a converted receiver who returns kicks and can pick off passes. Still raw as a corner though. Aguayo is clearly the top kicker on the board.

Alex Lewis is a guy with 2nd-round talent at LT but has a temper that needs to be controlled. He was sentenced to 45 days while at Colorado for beating a man unconscious and also had discipline issues at Nebraska after he transferred but he was also a team captain with the Huskers. He could be a cheap steal or a huge bust. In the 6th, that's worth a gamble.

[Roy P]

I did two mocks today: the first time was with the Fanspeak database:
#22 QB Paxton Lynch
#52 WR Josh Doctson
#85 RB Kenneth Dixon
#120 SS Miles Killebrew
#159 NT Javon Hargrave
#166 TE Jerell Adams
#198 TE Henry Krieger-Coble

The 2nd time I chose the Risden database and I felt silly:
#22 QB Jared Goff
#52 Laquon Treadwell
#85 OT Shon Coleman
#120 WR Tyler Boyd
#159 RB Jordan Howard
#166 DE Matt Ioannidis
#198 OT Kyle Murphy

[Roy P]

CBS and Draftspeak

#22 QB Carson Wentz
#52 TE Hunter Henry
#85 WR Tyler Boyd
#120 G Christian Wwsterman
#159 RB CJ Prosise
#166 CB Harlan Miller
#198 OLB James Crowser

#22 WR Laquon Treadwell
#52 QB Paxton Lynch
#85 Tyler Boyd
#120 RB Kenyan Drake
#159 DE Matt Ioannidis
#166 ILB Blake Martinez
#198 TE David Morgan II