Quote:
Originally Posted by popanot
No matter how much you dismiss Bortles' numbers and try to validate Hoyer's/HOU QB's (even though we had quite a few blow-out garbage time TD's), I'd still trade Hoyer/Nuk/Washington/Blue-Etc/Griffin-etc for Bortles/ARobinson/Hurns/Yeldon/DRobinson/Thomas without blinking an eye. I'm pretty confident most, if not all, NFL GM's would do the same. I'd also be confident our coaching staff could develop and help improve any weaknesses these players might have. In addition, a much better D would be less likely to put them in bad situations and force them to take added risks. As for the other QBs you mention, of course there are other QBs I'd take over Bortles (maybe not all of the ones on your list), but that has nothing to do with my original point. It was strictly JAX/HOU players.
I'm not scared of them overtaking us either because I think their coaching staff sucks and they have a long way to go to upgrade that horrendous D. However, that doesn't change the fact I think they have a good, young offensive core.
|
If you want to pick one set or the other it is close but I probably go Jags.
But when you consider the fact that Jacksonville has invested large resources into their guys and thus are locked into them, I'd prefer our guys. Jacksonville cannot upgrade QB except with internal improvement. Bortles will be there until at least 1 (probably 2) coaches lose their job. The same is true with Yeldon to a lesser degree. They invested a 2nd round pick in him so he will keep getting low impact carries for at least a year or two. No assets will be spent on upgrading that position because the GM is tied to Yeldon. Same with Joekel. He wouldn't be on the field if the team didn't need to justify his draft position. He's a turnstile. But they can't do anything else until they cut bait. They are solid at WR, although I don't think there is a true #1 that teams fear. That is the hardest piece to fill at WR, and they will not be filling it any time soon because they are committed to all of their WRs already. I'd say their WR group is their best position group, but it is still not among the best in the NFL. Like I said earlier, at TE they either have a stud they ruined, or an average player made to look great by peak Peyton Manning. He averaged less than 10 YPC this year and did little in the redzone. Either way they are at least average or maybe good.
They have a mediocre offense that might reach above average potential if the coaching staff doesn't screw them up. But it's a low ceiling group that they are locked into. They are not replacing/upgrading any of the skill guys because the GM bet on all of them.
Houston has 1 piece we are tied to in our skill guys and a functional offensive line. But we are open to free to replace and shuffle everywhere else. I'd already take our WR group just based on Hopkins. There is not a GM out there who would deal a great WR for a really good one and a handful of above average ones. I also like Strong if O'Brien ever plays him. I'd take our RB situation over theirs. I like Blue more than Yeldon because he does more for the team (ST) and his draft position allows us to make him the #2 or #3 back without hesitation. I also like Hunt as a Roster spot guy. Our TEs are terrible. I'd take 31 other team's TE situation over ours. It think we have a solid OL and really good OL depth.
So I'd take the Jacksonville guys if I was required to take a group and stick with them the next 2 years. But I'd far prefer our group and the flexibility it allows. Of course that is assuming that O'Brien actually decides to address the QB situation at some time in the next 2 offseasons.
01-03-2016, 06:40 PM
Hybrid Mode
