Hoyer Named Starting QB [Benched Week 2 - Mallett to Start]

[HPF Bob]

Let's pause for a moment and remember who was in the Super Bowl last year and how they got their starting quarterbacks. Did either draft them in the first round? No. The year before, did either Super Bowl team draft their quarterback in the first round? No. The year before that, did either Super Bowl team draft their quarterback in the first round? Yes, one did but the other didn't.

We've had three chances to take a QB at 1/1. In 2002, we took him and got a guy that will never be a championship quarterback. In 2006, we passed up Vince Young and Matt Leinart (and Jay Cutler) for a guy that's no longer with the team. Last year, we passed up Bridgewater, Bortles and Manziel for someone we hope will finally showcase his once-ridiculous talent.

And what of the teams that took Cam Newton, Jamarcus Russell, Sam Bradford, Matthew Stafford, Matt Ryan, Alex Smith....any rings?

The guys we have here now know defense wins championships and they're going all in on defense. Yeah, it sucks to have mediocre talent at QB but you can win in the NFL with that until the right QB for the system comes along. And you can get that right guy in trade, or the second round or free agency. In the meantime, we're building a lights-out defense if all the pieces come together.

I'm not giving up this season. We've got a ridiculously easy schedule and we can still be better than .500 if we just beat the teams we should and pull an upset or two. We probably won't get over on the Colts but we can be a playoff team in Year Two with the talent we have if things break right.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Let's pause for a moment and remember who was in the Super Bowl last year and how they got their starting quarterbacks. Did either draft them in the first round? No. The year before, did either Super Bowl team draft their quarterback in the first round? No. The year before that, did either Super Bowl team draft their quarterback in the first round? Yes, one did but the other didn't.

We've had three chances to take a QB at 1/1. In 2002, we took him and got a guy that will never be a championship quarterback. In 2006, we passed up Vince Young and Matt Leinart (and Jay Cutler) for a guy that's no longer with the team. Last year, we passed up Bridgewater, Bortles and Manziel for someone we hope will finally showcase his once-ridiculous talent.

And what of the teams that took Cam Newton, Jamarcus Russell, Sam Bradford, Matthew Stafford, Matt Ryan, Alex Smith....any rings?

The guys we have here now know defense wins championships and they're going all in on defense. Yeah, it sucks to have mediocre talent at QB but you can win in the NFL with that until the right QB for the system comes along. And you can get that right guy in trade, or the second round or free agency. In the meantime, we're building a lights-out defense if all the pieces come together.

I'm not giving up this season. We've got a ridiculously easy schedule and we can still be better than .500 if we just beat the teams we should and pull an upset or two. We probably won't get over on the Colts but we can be a playoff team in Year Two with the talent we have if things break right.

Nobody said anything about a 1st round QB. If we have a Tom Brady or a Russel Wilson I'll take it no matter what round they were drafted in. But Mallet is entering year 5 and Hoyer is entering year 7. Wilson and Brady were low draft picks but both were Super Bowl champs and Pro Bowlers by year 5. Hoyer and Mallett are what they are and the existence of two great QBs not taken in round 1 doesn't change that.

[HPF Bob]

Joshua is hinting we'll be too good to draft a premier QB until 2017 at the soonest.

[Joshua]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Joshua is hinting we'll be too good to draft a premier QB until 2017 at the soonest.

That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that all we've tried with the QB position are retreads (Fitz, Hoyer) and extremely low probability gambles (Mallett, Savage, etc.). The position is too important to basically hope for a miracle, which is all that we've done for the last 2 years. Instead, we used the first pick of the 2nd round on XSF, who plays arguably the lowest position of value on the football field and will make virtually no impact on the win total even if he pans out (which right now does not look good).


My point about 2017 was that, even if we spend a high draft pick next year (1st or 2nd round), he'll still be a rookie in 2016 so you can't expect too much from him. Thus, I don't see any reasonable way we can expect quality QB play any earlier than 2017.

[Nconroe]

So I was thinking all three , Hoyer, Mallett, Savage were having a reasonable showing so far. Not disappointing at all. It is only the second preseason game.

I thought Hoyer not better than Mallett or Savage, but more experience so he starts for now.

And Mallett and Savage both still young with plenty upside to grow.

I suppose time will tell.

As far as early draft, if you don't yet have your oline, WR, RB, then your qb not matter how good will get killed.

Maybe we could have drafted a qb early last year, hindsight will tell in a couple of years.

[nunusguy]

Mallet is not at practice today because of "personal reasons" according to O'Brien. Who knows what that means, but he was clearly upset the other day when he was named the backup and not starting QB.

[WMH]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

Mallet is not at practice today because of "personal reasons" according to O'Brien. Who knows what that means, but he was clearly upset the other day when he was named the backup and not starting QB.

PDS ‏@PatDStat 26m26 minutes ago
Ryan Mallett showed up late to practice today. Was sent home by O’Brien is expected back to practice tomorrow. #Texans