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11-17-2013, 06:19 PM
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Keenum over schaub is a no brainer but there is reason to doubt the decision maker has a brain.
As for the OL, they are bad, but Keenum has been terrible against the blitz in every game he has played. Maybe Case is the QB and maybe he isn't. Maybe he progresses in the remaining games in a way that shows he is. But today QB is a FAR bigger need than RT. Try naming the best RTs in the league. Look at what the best teams in the NFL have invested at RT. Drafting Matthews high in round 1 with big money committed to brown would be idiotic. 
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11-17-2013, 07:44 PM
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The Texans' irresponsible drafting and player management is going to be exposed in a serious way very soon. The team has so many needs that it will be impossible to address even a real percentage of them. They'll return one productive DL, their LBs are a horrible. The one guy who's any good can't stay on the field. They have a terrible pair of OLBs for a 3-4 team. Their secondary could and should be improved all across the board. And that's just the defense.
Tate will walk and no one knows if Arian can stay healthy so a RB is a must. Their OL blows and I don't think they'll be able to keep Wade Smith so you're looking at needing two or three starting OL. And then the most important position on the team is still a near total unknown. I like Case and I think he can play but a new coach (I'll assume just for the hell of it that Kubiak will be fired) will surely not want to go into his first year with Case at QB. Basically the entire franchise is a total disaster and a league-wide joke.
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11-17-2013, 08:05 PM
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Kubiak just couldn't wait to go back to his boy. You could see it a mile away just based on his presser in the beginning of the week. Schaub has royally sucked for almost a full year now and Kubiak sticks with him throughout. Keenum has a few bad quarters (with his OL sucking rotten eggs, but while the team is still in the game) and he gets yanked. I am so sick of Kubiak and McNair it makes me want to spit nails.
Man, two wildcard wins against a crap Bengals team. What a ride it's been!!! You should be proud McNair!! Maybe in another 10 years you'll reach Uncle Drayton territory in Houston lore.
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11-17-2013, 09:31 PM
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Not Case Keenum's best game.... but nothing different from what more established players have at times.... Go check Kaepernick/Dalton/Romo/Flacco, etc. stats/box scores over the course of a season.....
---------------------------- I agree that Kubes was looking for the right opportunity to get his boy in the game.... ---------------------------- Don't get the horniness to draft a QB with the Texans first pick I see on some of the messageboards.... I can respect it but I don't agree with it. I'd rather have a can't miss LB or OL..... The prospect of ending up with the next Geno Smith doesn't really do it for me..... Did we not learn anything from 2002?
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11-17-2013, 11:18 PM
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The Texans were almost snakebit this year. They aren't that bad a team but need to upgrade some areas and probably change coaches because the ones they have now clearly can't get the team beyond a certain level. Look how quickly the Chiefs turned it around in one year. Some snakebit team has that happen every year. This year, the Texans and Falcons both disintegrated but they'll be back next year. Back to the playoffs? Maybe, maybe not. But the Texans will be back next year, especially if they have the nerve to make some big changes.
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11-18-2013, 12:42 AM
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And I'll tell you honestly that your complete misreading of the respective state of each franchise really does surprise me because I know you at one time spent a great deal of time with the Astros and I assumed you still do. The Astros have had an historically bad three year stretch. We all know that. But if you talk with anyone in professional baseball the unanimous consensus is that the team is growing from the bottom up in an impressively powerful way, and no one expects the team to be the league doormat for much longer. Me, I don't give a fck because I can't and won't root for an American League team. I do watch the Astros closely, though, and I follow professional baseball closely. The Astros have been terrible, yes, but they are far from a league-wide joke. Most baseball people are in near awe of what Luhnow has done building up the farm and stockpiling promising arms. How do you not know this? (I fully expect Crane to pull the rug out in three or four years but that's a conversation for another day.) The Texans, on the other hand, have an owner that no one in football respects, have a head coach that will never be a head coach for another team and a general manager who will never again be a general manager. They can rely on AJ, Watt, Duane Brown. And Myers. Let's make it an even four. Every other player either sucks or won't be back or both or is an injury liability. That's it, dude. Do you want to look at who started for the Texans today and tell me that a quick turnaround is in the works? They could hire Vince Lombardi and this team would suck for another three years. They are two and eight. This is a two and eight team. They are a disgrace and a joke. Snakebit my ass. You are right, though, that there are miles of difference between the Astros and the Texans. One team is ascendant and the other is mired in ammonia-reeking wet Rodeo shit.
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11-18-2013, 12:27 PM
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Brooks Reed and Mercilus make me wonder what Connor Barwin's been up to lately. How disappointing is that? Someone mentioned hubris. Perfect. Bullock for a 5th rounder. And I want to like Keenum. I really do. But he is a career backup. Can a new coach return this team to the playoffs next year? Absolutely. Even with Keenum. But Smith needs to go with Kubiak.
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11-18-2013, 04:34 PM
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Statistically, he's better than most QB's in the league already. Have you seen his vertical stats? In just 3.5 games, has thrown: Passes of 20+ = 16 Passes of 40+ = 5 Compared to some others (who have been playing most of the year): Matt Schaub (6.5 games) Passes of 20+ = 20 Passes of 40+ = 1 Christian Ponder Passes of 20+ = 20 Passes of 40+ = 2 RGIII Passes of 20+ = 28 Passes of 40+ = 4 Tom Brady Passes of 20+ = 27 Passes of 40+ = 5 Pro-rate Keenum's vertical stats over a 10 game span and he's right up there (or better than) with P Manning, Drew Brees, Mathew Stafford, i.e, the best in the league. He's thrown 8 TD's with 1 INT in his 3.5 games. Prorate that over a 16 game schedule and you get 37 TD's and 5 INT's (really good). Schaub's best year (2009), he threw 29 TD's with 15 INT's. So, in conclusion, he's not doing bad for essentially a rookie..... I've always been a fan of the vertical game so I'm a bit biased but I think he can be a serviceable starter - in Arky's World, I'd love for him to finish out the year (with no interruptions) and perhaps be the de facto starter next year at least during what appears to be changes coming about and a shakeup in the organization... For the record, I could care less about U of H and only saw parts of a handful of Keenum's TV games in his college days. No less than June Jones has mentioned his incredible accuracy and that's the way I saw it in the preseason - I saw a nice short and intermediate game. He was throwing perfectly-led flair passes and hitting receivers on slants over the middle. So, I'm a little confused about what has happened to this aspect of his game lately..... perhaps he's getting coached up.... 
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11-18-2013, 06:59 PM
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That aside, I don't think it is a fluke that he has struggled in 2nd halves... NFL teams adjust. Quote:
And I mention "healthy legs"... a) he's still young, and b) he hasn't made it hardly a month yet. Point being, those fresh legs he has now to extend these plays may not be so fresh in December and January when it would (in theory) really count in future seasons. Which is part of why he looks like a career backup to me and maybe Flutie is an interesting comparison. The kind of QB that could play an extended stretch of amazing football, but not a decade-long starter that the team may have an opportunity to select in April's draft. And Brees is definitely the upside, but consider too, Brees is the huge exception to the rule. For all I know, Raider fans think UDFA McGloin is the next Tony Romo, not Case Keenum. How's that for persective?
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11-18-2013, 07:47 PM
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Every QB in the league is taped/filmed yet some still manage to get the job done on Sundays for all 4 quarters. At this point in time, I'm pointing the finger at the coaching for not counter-adjusting. Not so sure the problem is Keenum and I'm really not sure what "fresh legs" has to do with it. Probably helps to have "fresh legs" when you're running for your life....  Quote:
Keenum's ability to extend plays is a positive..... He's not a Cunningham/VY/RGIII/etc type, IMO. If I was a Raider fan, I'd be thrilled. I think I heard McGloin has earned another start... This is the way stars are born (seriously)...... McGloin has certainly got the league's attention after Sunday. Keenum may very well end up career backup or even a flash-in-the-pan. Just, some of us aren't so quick to slap the gavel down just yet. At this point in time, I'm betting a lot of offensive coordinators around the league would love to have him....
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