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Old 09-04-2008, 09:34 AM
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well....seems to me that you don't "cover your asses on an over-the-hill, oft injured player" unless you expect that he won't make it. of course they expect him to play the games, but we haven't covered any other ass besides ahman who is, generally considered, an over-the-hill, oft injured player...come on don't make me connect dots.

if he makes it he'll end up making more money than the original contract. incentive to stay healthy, you know? though, hopefully not an incentive to shy away from the game...i'm pretty sure they weren't just planning on giving ahman green a raise for his stellar play last year...

i can't wait to see what we actually get out of him this year.
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Old 09-04-2008, 11:33 AM
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It is the same principal as contract incentives, sales comission, or you every day annual bonus. Why would a team put in contract invetives for production if they think the player is going to hit them anyway? Because if they dont then the they dont get paid.

Green's body may be old and used or maybe he has had a run of bad luck on injuries. Either way the Texans are ensuring that if he stays healthy and plays then he gets paid, if not then the team is in a better postion finacially.
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Old 09-04-2008, 01:42 PM
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wow...this has gotten off track a bit...i promise i had a point before semantics took over...

ok...production incentives are one thing. ahman's 200K per game isn't production based though, it's if he makes the active roster for gameday. a.k.a. if he is healthy enough to play or not. if he makes it the whole year, he gets a raise on top of a contract he wouldn't be able to replicate anywhere else anyway AND we get a decent RB for a whole year. everyone wins. they wouldn't rework his contract unless they think at some point he's probably going out with injuries. keep that in mind, there's still a point coming...

if, or as most people who pay attention (like for instance, our GM) expect, when ahman goes down are we really okay with slaton/taylor combo? secondly (the real point), would bell serve any purpose that darius walker couldn't? if he can what exactly sets him apart from walker? also, if he can why exactly are we keeping darius walker around if he's no help even in an injury-call-up situation like he was last year?
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Old 09-04-2008, 04:07 PM
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I think Darius did real well last year and should do well if we need him this year. As I understand it, they haven't yet called in Bell to talk with him, just a rumor they might. But, one could always look to upgrade,
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Old 09-04-2008, 04:30 PM
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Evidently this was just a rumor..

http://houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=4594

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Kubiak laughs off Bell rumors: It was reported in The Detroit News that former Detroit Lions running back Tatum Bell had flown to Houston to try out with the Texans. Bell is connected to the Texans because he played under Kubiak in Denver, but the coach confirmed that the running back had not worked out with the Texans.

“You know, that’s news to me to be honest with you,” Kubiak joked. “I saw before I came over to practice on TV that we were working him out. So, I guess I need to go check with somebody.

“I know Tatum. I had him in Denver, but other than that, I know nothing about a workout.”
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Old 09-04-2008, 11:53 PM
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ESPN insiders NFL rumors.
"Tatum Bell, the former Lions running back who was recently released following the signing of Rudi Johnson, flew to Houston for a try out with the Texans, according to multiple reports. Bell has a connection with the Texans in that his former line coach with the Broncos, Alex Gibbs, is now an assistant head coach in charge of offense with the Texans. With the re-emergence of Kevin Jones in Detroit, Bell saw his role diminish drastically in 2007 as he only rushed for 182 yards."

Is journalism this bad or is Kubiak lying.
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Old 09-05-2008, 12:39 AM
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Is journalism this bad or is Kubiak lying.
I weep for journalism.
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Old 09-05-2008, 10:20 AM
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ESPN insiders NFL rumors.
"Tatum Bell, the former Lions running back who was recently released following the signing of Rudi Johnson, flew to Houston for a try out with the Texans, according to multiple reports. Bell has a connection with the Texans in that his former line coach with the Broncos, Alex Gibbs, is now an assistant head coach in charge of offense with the Texans. With the re-emergence of Kevin Jones in Detroit, Bell saw his role diminish drastically in 2007 as he only rushed for 182 yards."

Is journalism this bad or is Kubiak lying.
It would be kind of hard to lie about someone who's actually at the facility working out. I don't really recall teams trying to keep this sort of thing a secret even if they wanted to. If Bell was here working out, I suspect someone would have seen him.
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Old 09-06-2008, 07:31 PM
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ESPN insiders NFL rumors.
"Tatum Bell, the former Lions running back who was recently released following the signing of Rudi Johnson, flew to Houston for a try out with the Texans, according to multiple reports. Bell has a connection with the Texans in that his former line coach with the Broncos, Alex Gibbs, is now an assistant head coach in charge of offense with the Texans. With the re-emergence of Kevin Jones in Detroit, Bell saw his role diminish drastically in 2007 as he only rushed for 182 yards."

Is journalism this bad or is Kubiak lying.
Well, for one thing, Bell was drafted in 2004, and according to the bio on HT.com, that was the first year that Gibbs was in Atlanta. I don't know for certain whether the article's wrong, whether NFL.com got the year Bell was drafted wrong, or whether the resume for Gibbs is wrong, but I'm pretty sure I know who I'm betting against.

When a very straightforward fact gets botched up, you kind of lose interest in whether anything else in the article is accurate.
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