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Old 09-03-2008, 07:51 PM
nero THE zero nero THE zero is offline
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with green's contract restructuring...aren't they (including ahman) basically implying they don't think he'll make it?
I don't think so. They could be saying, "we'll pay you... but only if you play."

That doesn't necessarily mean they don't think he'll play.
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Old 09-04-2008, 01:35 AM
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Bell has second-round talent but a sixth-round head. He does know the one-cut running system, has breakaway speed and, if signed, will clearly be the most talented back on the Texans. But he has a knack for fumbling, blown assignments and thinking too much of himself. Denver traded him because he thought he deserved Clinton Portis money. The Broncos didn't even think Clinton Portis deserved Clinton Portis money.
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Old 09-04-2008, 01:49 AM
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I agree with Bob.

He is a system back, and not a great sytem back at that. After the "bag" incident his character is a big concern. I doubt he makes the roster after that. No one wants to count their cheerios after every game....
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Old 09-04-2008, 08:07 AM
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I don't think so. They could be saying, "we'll pay you... but only if you play."

That doesn't necessarily mean they don't think he'll play.
if they thought he was going to play a whole season why are they paying him per game? or why not just keep the original contract?
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Old 09-04-2008, 09:00 AM
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if they thought he was going to play a whole season why are they paying him per game? or why not just keep the original contract?
Because they are concerned about his injuries. That's not the same thing as not expecting him to play, though.

I mean, I'm not in the room with them; we don't know for sure what they think. But, it just seems to me that they are covering their own asses with an over-the-hill, oft injured player.
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Old 09-04-2008, 09:34 AM
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well....seems to me that you don't "cover your asses on an over-the-hill, oft injured player" unless you expect that he won't make it. of course they expect him to play the games, but we haven't covered any other ass besides ahman who is, generally considered, an over-the-hill, oft injured player...come on don't make me connect dots.

if he makes it he'll end up making more money than the original contract. incentive to stay healthy, you know? though, hopefully not an incentive to shy away from the game...i'm pretty sure they weren't just planning on giving ahman green a raise for his stellar play last year...

i can't wait to see what we actually get out of him this year.
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Old 09-04-2008, 11:33 AM
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It is the same principal as contract incentives, sales comission, or you every day annual bonus. Why would a team put in contract invetives for production if they think the player is going to hit them anyway? Because if they dont then the they dont get paid.

Green's body may be old and used or maybe he has had a run of bad luck on injuries. Either way the Texans are ensuring that if he stays healthy and plays then he gets paid, if not then the team is in a better postion finacially.
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Old 09-04-2008, 01:42 PM
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wow...this has gotten off track a bit...i promise i had a point before semantics took over...

ok...production incentives are one thing. ahman's 200K per game isn't production based though, it's if he makes the active roster for gameday. a.k.a. if he is healthy enough to play or not. if he makes it the whole year, he gets a raise on top of a contract he wouldn't be able to replicate anywhere else anyway AND we get a decent RB for a whole year. everyone wins. they wouldn't rework his contract unless they think at some point he's probably going out with injuries. keep that in mind, there's still a point coming...

if, or as most people who pay attention (like for instance, our GM) expect, when ahman goes down are we really okay with slaton/taylor combo? secondly (the real point), would bell serve any purpose that darius walker couldn't? if he can what exactly sets him apart from walker? also, if he can why exactly are we keeping darius walker around if he's no help even in an injury-call-up situation like he was last year?
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Old 09-04-2008, 04:07 PM
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I think Darius did real well last year and should do well if we need him this year. As I understand it, they haven't yet called in Bell to talk with him, just a rumor they might. But, one could always look to upgrade,
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