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Old 01-25-2011, 11:56 PM
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they have adjusted there mock with the completion of the playoffs.

11 Robert Quinn* DE UNC 6' 5" 260
42 DeAndre McDaniel S Clemson 6' 1" 190
73 Casey Matthews ILB Oregon 6' 2" 235
104 Joe Lefeged CB Rutgers 6' 1" 205
135 Ronald Johnson WR USC 6' 0" 190
173 Tyrod Taylor QB Virginia Tech 6' 1" 215
203 Brennan Olander DT Oregon State 6' 1" 276

I don't think Quinn is a McNair type guy, we will see.

11 Justin Houston* DE Georgia 6' 3" 259
42 DeAndre McDaniel SS Clemson 6' 1" 190
73 Sam Acho DE Texas 6' 3" 258
104 Jerrell Powe DT Mississippi 6' 2" 330
135 Shiloh Keo S Idaho 5' 11" 210
173 Niles Paul WR Nebraska 6' 1" 215
203 Roy Helu Jr. RB Nebraska 6' 0" 215

My OLBs are Houston, Acho, Barwin and Anderson
My DEs are Mario and Antonio, and a FA
MY NTs are Cody, Powe and Mitchell?
ILBs Ryans, Cushing, Sharpton and Bentley
Safeties are McDaniel, Keo, Nolan and Quinn or Barber
CBs are Jackson, FA, ?Quinn, Allen, McMannis

My RBs are Foster, Tate, Helu

Say bye bye to Okoye, Pollard, Wilson, Diles, Owen Daniels and Jacoby Jones. Time for a do over at a few positions, sign some Veteran FAs.
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Old 01-27-2011, 11:37 AM
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Default Drafttek.com 2011 Consensus Mock Draft In-Season Revision #17 1.25.11

11 J.J. Watt Wisconsin DE34
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Drafttek.com's DRAFTSIM model draws JJ Watt for the 2nd consecutive week! Uncle Wade ends up with maybe the top 3-4 DE in this year's draft. Watt plays the game with a tenacity and passion not often seen today and is the first building block in Houston's conversion to a 3-4 defense. The Texans' current roster only has 2 candidates to play DE in a 3-4: Mario Williams and Antonio Smith. Watt compliments this duo nicely and provides an excellent rotation pattern for the 3-man line. - Long Ball
42 DeAndre McDaniel Clemson SS
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The Houston Texans had the worst secondary in the league last year -- there, I've said it! McDaniel was a pre-season darling, had his ups and downs for Clemson during the year, but is a ball-hawking safety whose reaction instincts and "football speed" belies his forty time. Not only will this selection solidify Houston's young CB's and improve the turnover ratio in 2011, but provides a more physical presence in run support with the advent of Wade Phillips' new 3-4 alignment. - Long Ball
73 Johnny Patrick Louisville CB
104 Christian Ballard Iowa DE34
141 Justin Boren Ohio State OG
172 Jeremy Kellem Middle Tennessee FS
202 Kenny Rowe Oregon OLB34

Where I like Watts and Ballard, I have many more needs with the conversion, and DE is not biggest need. Unless I am trading Mario, I do not see two 34 DEs in this draft.
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Old 01-29-2011, 06:07 PM
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Default WalterFootball.com 1.27.11 mock

And the climb begins, Von Miller has had a wonderful week at Mobile and this mock has him going #5 to Arizona, wow!

11 Houston Texans: Aldon Smith, DE/OLB, Missouri
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Rejoice, Texans fans! Wade Phillips is your new defensive coordinator.

With the shift to the 3-4, Houston will need a nose tackle to pair with ends Mario Williams and Antonio Smith. DeMeco Ryans and Brian Cushing would play inside linebacker, while the outside pass rushers would be Connor Barwin and... umm... Aldon Smith.

Smith missed some action this year, which would explain why he had only 10 TFL and 4.5 sacks. However, he's a freak of nature and pretty much a lock for the top 15. Smith has drawn comparisons to Jason Pierre-Paul in terms of raw athleticism. I think he's more 4-3, but he does project well into the 3-4.
42 Houston Texans: Jimmy Smith, CB, Colorado
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The Texans will be targeting a rush linebacker and a cornerback with their top two selections in the 2011 NFL Draft. Aldon Smith filled the former need with the 11th pick in the first round. Jimmy Smith would satisfy the latter.

Despite taking Kareem Jackson in the first round of last year's draft, Houston still must address the cornerback position. Kareem Jackson has to improve, while Glover Quin would be better served as the nickel.
73 Houston Texans: Deunta Williams, FS, North Carolina
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The Texans desperately need to address both safety positions this offseason. Free safety is more dire, as Eugene Wilson and Troy Nolan have both failed there.
104 Houston Texans: Ian Williams, NT, Notre Dame
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Houston's current nose tackle is Amobi Okoye. If he doesn't pan out in his new position, the Texans will need a Plan B.
I'm going to suggest something that it seems I do every year, if the draft falls like this does, trade down. Someone will be looking at a QB and not wanting to pay top 10 money, trade down and get picks for later.

But I will play with what is here:

11 Aldon Smith, DE/OLB, Missouri top 34 OLB available
42 Quinton Carter, S, Oklahoma
73 Brooks Reed, DE/OLB, Arizona
104 Greg Salas, WR, Hawaii

There are 3 OL guys that I would consider: Stefen Wisniewski, Mike Pouncey, and John Moffitt, Might be willing to take one of htese guys instead of a defensive need pick.
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Old 01-30-2011, 03:24 PM
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But I will play with what is here:

11 Aldon Smith, DE/OLB, Missouri top 34 OLB available
42 Quinton Carter, S, Oklahoma
73 Brooks Reed, DE/OLB, Arizona
104 Greg Salas, WR, Hawaii
My picks...

11. DE Cameron Heyward Ohio St 6'5" 288 4.92
42. CB Jimmy Smith Colorado 6'2" 205 4.49
73. DT Jarvis Jenkins Clemson 6'3" 310 4.98
104. CB Davon House New Mexico St 6'0" 190 4.46
S Chris Conte California 6'3" 212 4.54
OLB Wayne Daniels TCU 6'2" 250 4.79
OLB Markus White Florida St. 6'4" 262 4.69
ILB Scott Lutrus Connecticut 6'3" 240 4.68


Just guessing what's available in rounds 5-FA
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Old 01-31-2011, 05:31 AM
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11 Robert Quinn* DE UNC 6' 5" 260
42 DeAndre McDaniel S Clemson 6' 1" 190
73 Casey Matthews ILB Oregon 6' 2" 235
104 Joe Lefeged CB Rutgers 6' 1" 205
135 Ronald Johnson WR USC 6' 0" 190
173 Tyrod Taylor QB Virginia Tech 6' 1" 215
203 Brennan Olander DT Oregon State 6' 1" 276
I have a couple of questions after the Senior Bowl week of practice and the game.

1) How high will Phil Taylor NT Baylor rise before the draft? Is he going to be like Raji and jump into the 1st round? Raji went #9 to Green Bay in 09.

2) Is Von Miller overhyped?

3) Should we go NT in the 1st and then take Reed later to play OLB?

4) Is our middle of the OL OK if we pass on guys like Wisniewski, Pouncey, Hudson, Moffitt or Danny Watkins Baylor? Anyone of those guys would improve our interior OL in the long run. But how else are we going to get defensive guys that we need?

Is this mock to far of a reach?
17 Brandon Harris* CB Miami 5' 11" 195 ***trade down with NE
42 Phil Taylor DT Baylor 6' 4" 355
60 Stefen Wisniewski OG Penn State 6' 3" 297 ***for the trade down from NE
73 Sam Acho DE Texas 6' 3" 258
104 Brooks Reed OLB/DE Arizona 6'3" 255
135 Shiloh Keo S Idaho 5' 11" 210
173 Tejay Johnson S TCU 6' 1" 210
203 Chas Henry PT Florida 6' 3" 215

We would need to sign a FA or two from some other team.
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Old 01-31-2011, 10:40 AM
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I have a couple of questions after the Senior Bowl week of practice and the game.

1) How high will Phil Taylor NT Baylor rise before the draft? Is he going to be like Raji and jump into the 1st round? Raji went #9 to Green Bay in 09.

2) Is Von Miller overhyped?

3) Should we go NT in the 1st and then take Reed later to play OLB?

4) Is our middle of the OL OK if we pass on guys like Wisniewski, Pouncey, Hudson, Moffitt or Danny Watkins Baylor? Anyone of those guys would improve our interior OL in the long run. But how else are we going to get defensive guys that we need?

Is this mock to far of a reach?
17 Brandon Harris* CB Miami 5' 11" 195 ***trade down with NE
42 Phil Taylor DT Baylor 6' 4" 355
60 Stefen Wisniewski OG Penn State 6' 3" 297 ***for the trade down from NE
73 Sam Acho DE Texas 6' 3" 258
104 Brooks Reed OLB/DE Arizona 6'3" 255
135 Shiloh Keo S Idaho 5' 11" 210
173 Tejay Johnson S TCU 6' 1" 210
203 Chas Henry PT Florida 6' 3" 215

We would need to sign a FA or two from some other team.
1. I look at Phil Taylor and think about a few recent drafts...
Dan Williams - #26
Ron Brace - #40
Torell Troup - #41
Linval Joseph - #46
Terrence Cody - #57
Terrence Knighton - #72
Pat Sims - #26
----There isn't a BJ Raji type player in this draft. I'm hopeful that Jarvis Jenkins will be around in the 3rd round sort of like Roy Miller was, but we may just have Sean Cody as our NT this year unless we sign a Free Agent.

2. Yes, he is a bit overhyped. I liked Brian Orapko better than Miller and he was drafted #13.

3. No to the first and yes to the second. A CB would be my preference in the 1st, but only if they are a stud. Otherwise, a trade down and selecting a 5-Tech may be best.

4. I think a decent OL prospect can be selected in the 4th or possibly 5th round. John Moffit or Tim Barnes?
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Old 01-31-2011, 11:13 AM
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Hadn't validated this, but heard one of TV guys say Green Bay DL has 4 guys of 320lbs they sometimes rush together. That is a big DL. Led by Raji now.
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