2011?

[chuck]

Originally Posted by NBT

After listening to the Wade Phillips interview on radio 610 today it doesn't look like Wade thinks it's that big of a deal personnel wise, to change over to a 3-4 from the 4-3 we presently use.

Kubiak said he could win with Carr.

[WMH]

Originally Posted by chuck

Kubiak said he could win with Carr.

Kubiak was trying to get a job......

[chuck]

Originally Posted by WMH

Kubiak was trying to get a job......

What's Wade supposed to say?

We are screwed. We have no 3-4 DL, we have maybe one 3-4 LB, our secondary is the worst I have ever seen.

That?

[popanot]

Originally Posted by WMH

Kubiak was trying to get a job......

Wade was too... The one common thread in all this is McNair. He's the same buffoon who was convinced that Carr was serviceable and gave him a ridiculous extension, and the same buffoon who gave his HC an extension despite performing at or below mediocrity. This franchise is a mess and it all starts at the top. There are multiple instances this year and in the past that clearly indicates this.

[painekiller]

11 Adrian Clayborn DE Iowa 6' 3" 282
42 Muhammed Wilkerson* DT Temple 6' 5" 300
73 Mike Pouncey OG Florida 6' 5" 320
104 Jeron Johnson S Boise State 5' 11" 194
135 Chykie Brown CB Texas 6' 0" 190
173 Niles Paul WR Nebraska 6' 1" 215
203 Alex Wujciak ILB Maryland 6' 3" 255

Not in Love with this one either. I see some hits but I do not see Clayborn as an upgrade at either DE spot. More of a BPA type pick and we already have to many DEs for the new system..

My take.

11 Dontay Moch OLB Nevada 6' 1" 245 (Watch him climb the board, hopefully we can trade down and get him, but if not...)
42 Stefen Wisniewski OG Penn State 6' 3" 297
73 Kendrick Ellis DT Hampton 6' 5" 340
104 Jaiquawn Jarrett S Temple 6' 2" 195
135 Shiloh Keo S Idaho 5' 11" 210
173 Chas Henry PT Florida 6' 3" 215
203 Jonathan Cornell ILB Mississippi 6' 1" 235

[popanot]

Here's a 1rst round mock. The mock has us taking Akeem Ayers (OLB - UCLA). I looked up video of Ayers and he looks like a good player, but seems a bit stiff or slightly slower than I'd prefer in a rushing 3-4 DE/OLB. The mock has Von Miller going 18, so I think I'd cherrypick Miller if we were to go OLB.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...tml?xid=si_nfl

[Blitzwood]

Originally Posted by painekiller

My take.

11 Dontay Moch OLB Nevada 6' 1" 245 (Watch him climb the board, hopefully we can trade down and get him, but if not...)
42 Stefen Wisniewski OG Penn State 6' 3" 297
73 Kendrick Ellis DT Hampton 6' 5" 340
104 Jaiquawn Jarrett S Temple 6' 2" 195
135 Shiloh Keo S Idaho 5' 11" 210
173 Chas Henry PT Florida 6' 3" 215
203 Jonathan Cornell ILB Mississippi 6' 1" 235

MY take,

11. Cameron Heyward DE(3-4) Ohio State 6' 6" 290
42. Casey Matthews OLB Oregon 6'2" 235
73. Mike Pouncey OG Florida 6' 5" 320
104. Justin Houston* OLB Georgia 6'3" 258
135. Jermale Hines S Ohio State 6' 2" 210
173. Chimdi Chekwa CB Ohio State 6' 0" 190(drops because of a broken arm)
203. Jamie Harper* RB Clemson 5' 11" 230

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Blitzwood

MY take,

11. Cameron Heyward DE(3-4) Ohio State 6' 6" 290
42. Casey Matthews OLB Oregon 6'2" 235
73. Mike Pouncey OG Florida 6' 5" 320
104. Justin Houston* OLB Georgia 6'3" 258
135. Jermale Hines S Ohio State 6' 2" 210
173. Chimdi Chekwa CB Ohio State 6' 0" 190(drops because of a broken arm)
203. Jamie Harper* RB Clemson 5' 11" 230

Nice attempt. Only question I have is where is your NT?

[nunusguy]

STEPHEN PAEA HAS for the second consecutive year been voted the winner of the Morris Trophy. Paea becomes the fourth two-time recipient of the award, having won it in 2009, and becomes the fourth Beaver to win the Morris Trophy, joining Esera Tuaolo (1989), Inoke Breckterfield (1998) and Bill Swancutt (2004).
The Morris Trophy is given to the outstanding offensive and defensive linemen in the Pac-10. The selection procedure is unique -- the starting offensive linemen in the Pac-10 vote for the defensive winner and vice versa.
**
Stephen Paea, the 6-1, 311-pound senior from Los Altos, Calif., whose only Pac-10 offer was from Oregon State coming out of junior college, also received received the 2010 Pac-10 Conference Pat Tillman Defensive Player of the Year honor
http://oregonstate.scout.com/2/1032875.html
**
This guy appears to be an Amobi Okoye, but with excellent functional strength and a full-time motor, both missing from Okoyes game.
Phillips says he's not necessarily interested in a big fat guy to play nose, so this might be an option ? Also depends on how Phillips rates Mitchell & Cody ?

[Blitzwood]

Originally Posted by painekiller

Nice attempt. Only question I have is where is your NT?

I'll draft a NT to groom under Cody and Lewis for a year.


11. Justin Houston* OLB Georgia 6' 3" 259 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR0L2RVId90
42. Ahmad Black FS Florida 5' 9" 190 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9msQlgOziFE
73. Jarvis Jenkins NT Clemson 6' 4" 310 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV0wC...eature=related
104. Markus White OLB Florida State 6' 4" 260
135. Mike Blanc DE 3-4 Auburn 6' 4" 290
173. Jermale Hines SS Ohio State 6' 2" 210
203. Alex Henery K Nebraska 6' 2" 175 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfCedROWWog


I'd be happy with either draft, but I prefer to: trade down with N.E. our 11th for the 28th and 33rd pick.

28. Allen Bailey DE 3-4 Miami 6' 4" 288 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQvcXWLQKyk
33. Casey Matthews ILB/OLB Oregon 6' 2" 235 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUz2o2a_OXA
42. Mike Pouncey OG Florida 6' 5" 320 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzjPIP3gKkU
73. Bruce Carter OLB UNC 6' 3" 230 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6nFL9XVNmo
104. Armon Binns WR Cincinnati 6' 4" 200 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NunWG3U-Dw
135.Tejay Johnson S TCU 6' 1" 210 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inQL9MiGVHM
173. Anthony Gray NT Southern Miss 6'0" 318
203. Alex Henery K Nebraska 6' 2" 175 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfCedROWWog

I thought Bailey at 28 was a solid pick, he's got everything you look for in a 3-4 DE. Next I took the guess work out of the Texans draft war room and picked the brothers of two pro-bowlers. Bruce Carter will man the other OLB spot opposite Matthews. Binns gives us the REAL #2 we've needed for some time now, I think JJ will look for a payraise elsewhere this coming season anyways. Tejay gives us some depth in the secondary and Gray could some day be our NT, he's very hard to block down low. Henery kills two birds withe one stone, he's our PK and our punter. And a very good one at that.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by painekiller

11 Adrian Clayborn DE Iowa 6' 3" 282
42 Muhammed Wilkerson* DT Temple 6' 5" 300
73 Mike Pouncey OG Florida 6' 5" 320
104 Jeron Johnson S Boise State 5' 11" 194
135 Chykie Brown CB Texas 6' 0" 190
173 Niles Paul WR Nebraska 6' 1" 215
203 Alex Wujciak ILB Maryland 6' 3" 255

Not in Love with this one either.

OLB Justin Houston Georgia 6'3" 260
S DeAndre McDaniel Clemson 6'0" 212
ILB Bruce Carter North Carolina 6'3" 230
OT Jason Pinkston Pittsburgh 6'4" 310
OG Danny Watkins Baylor 6'4" 310
QB Greg McElroy Alabama 6'2" 225
WR Jarvis Williams NC State 6'4" 218

Hopefully, I have a NT, DE, CB all signed after Free Agency.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by Roy P

OLB Justin Houston Georgia 6'3" 260
S DeAndre McDaniel Clemson 6'0" 212
ILB Bruce Carter North Carolina 6'3" 230
OT Jason Pinkston Pittsburgh 6'4" 310
OG Danny Watkins Baylor 6'4" 310
QB Greg McElroy Alabama 6'2" 225
WR Jarvis Williams NC State 6'4" 218

Hopefully, I have a NT, DE, CB all signed after Free Agency.

CB Prince Amukamara is at the top of my wish list.
S DeAndre McDaniel or Rahim Moore or Jimmy Smith in the 2nd round
NT Jarvis Jenkins Or Jerrell Powe
OLB Sam Acho or KJ Wright
DB Jerrard Tarrant, Deunta Williams, Chris Conte, Jalil Brown, Will Hill, Chris Culliver

Then maybe another LB or DL

[NBT]

Originally Posted by chuck

Kubiak said he could win with Carr.

.......But then Kubiak has done pretty well with Schaub. You can't bat 1000 with every decision you make. Just hope most of them work out pretty well.

[chuck]

Originally Posted by NBT

.......But then Kubiak has done pretty well with Schaub. You can't bat 1000 with every decision you make. Just hope most of them work out pretty well.

My point, obviously, is that one should not take at face value Wade's assertion that he can run his defense with the personnel he has now. He's not going to come in and immediately take a dump on the slapstick defense these clowns have assembled.

Solomon mentioned in his blog the other day what Vegas thinks of the Texans' chances at the playoffs next year:

"Bodog.com has the Texans at +175 to make the postseason and -215 at not making it."

Hilarious. McNair may be fooling the necks around here by hiring a pair of hometown goons but he certainly isn't fooling Las Vegas.