[Cowher interested in becoming Texans HC] Finally, Music to my ears...

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by barrett

Scheme, motivation, health, and schedule are huge factors. We can't control the last two, but it is the job of our coaching staff to control the first two, and they have failed to do so.

Now I agree with that, but I don't agree that motivation is the same as "winning culture". You can resurrect Vince Lombardi from the dead, and he can surely motivate his players, but he wouldn't win in Houston until he's got the necessary talent. And regarding schemes (both offensive and defensive), good point and of course that's a coaching issue but that's not at all synonymous with "winning attitude" either IMO ?
We've already got players on our team who've spent their college careers at places like Miami, USC, 'Bama, etc. who learned all about a "winning culture"
in those programs, so obviously something else is missing from the formula here in Houston ?
"Winning attitude", "team chemistry", etc are all kinda vague terms used for players who complement each other on the team, have expereinced success, but first and foremost have "god given" talent. We need more "god given" talent here in Houston IMO.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

Now I agree with that, but I don't agree that motivation is the same as "winning culture". You can resurrect Vince Lombardi from the dead, and he can surely motivate his players, but he wouldn't win in Houston until he's got the necessary talent. And regarding schemes (both offensive and defensive), good point and of course that's a coaching issue but that's not at all synonymous with "winning attitude" either IMO ?
We've already got players on our team who've spent their college careers at places like Miami, USC, 'Bama, etc. who learned all about a "winning culture"
in those programs, so obviously something else is missing from the formula here in Houston ?
"Winning attitude", "team chemistry", etc are all kinda vague terms used for players who complement each other on the team, have expereinced success, but first and foremost have "god given" talent. We need more "god given" talent here in Houston IMO.

The win totals of the Cincinnatti Bengals,

2008 - 4
2009 - 10
2010 - 3

Their team talent has not changed significantly in any of those 3 seasons. Talent is not supreme in the NFL.

But just answer one question. Are the most talented teams in the NFL the most winning teams right now?

[HPF Bob]

Talent may not change but injuries often do. You can have the same personnel for 2-3 years but if the key players don't stay healthy, you can have wildly different results.

If we go to an 18-game season, that will become even more noticeable as the NFL becomes more a war of attrition than a true quest for a championship.

[coloradodude]

To talk about talent as being one of the most important aspects of a team is always in fashion when the team loses continuously.

But, is Tom Brady more talented than Michael Vick? Or Phillip Rivers?

Talent is not the end all, be all of team losses. An excellent coach can squeeze more production out of an inferior talent level team...see Bill Parcells (Giants) and Bear Bryant just off the top of my head.

Coaching has gotten the results we need in our running game. Coaching (lack of) has also gotten us where we are in our defense.