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Old 12-20-2010, 07:35 PM
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Which guy on the Steelers pushed for Levon Kirkland and Greg Lloyd? If that was Cowher, I have no problem giving him GM control. If it was somebody else, then I'm a little worried. There's no doubt the Steelers have been great drafters over the years and know exactly what they are looking for and seem to find them and plug them into their system. I'm jealous as hell about it, but you have to give them props for their success.
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Old 12-20-2010, 09:15 PM
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I've been on Kubiak's corner all year but if we can get Cowher then I'm all for it. I also have no problem switching to 3-4. Regardless of whether Mario fits or not it can't possibly get worse than this year.
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Old 12-21-2010, 02:14 AM
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That defense of ours is horrible. To be concerned what we would do with Mario "single teamed all year long" Williams is the least of our worries.

We all agree that our secondary is beyond bad. Pittsburg has always had a pretty good secondary so Cowher would understand the need for a dominant safety...we still don't get that after all these years for some reason.

But our LB's and DL are a different story. I think a defensive minded coach could coach these guys up. The defense has to average less than 20 pts a game and we have (definitely have imo) the front seven to do that.

And we need to quit discriminating against the Samoans...we need more Samoans on the defense!
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Old 12-21-2010, 08:57 AM
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I'm not that excited about Cowher. I'd really rather have a younger guy, somebody who is clearly very hungry and has some smarts. Right off hand I have no idea who that would be, but these name guys who are part celeb like Cowher or Chucky on MNF don't appeal to me that much ?
Take a look at how Shanny is doing in Washington ? There's a pretty good comparison to Cowher in several ways. How's that working out ? Right.
Actually i wouldn't mind have Shannys kid here to be the Texans HC, but that's clearly out of the question.
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Old 12-21-2010, 09:45 AM
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Take a look at how Shanny is doing in Washington ? There's a pretty good comparison to Cowher in several ways.
Can you elaborate? Other than them both being "name" coaches, I see virtually no similarities.
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Old 12-21-2010, 10:50 AM
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Can you elaborate? Other than them both being "name" coaches, I see virtually no similarities.
They both won SBs and they've both become even higher-profile since leaving the NFL with their TV careers, especially Gruden, who of course didn't even leave his last job voluntarily. And he won his SB primarily when he walked into a very good situation because Dungy knew how to put togehter
an outstanding defense.
Cowher on the other hand is far more impressive to me, but I suspect too many other opportunities for him to end up down here.
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Old 12-21-2010, 03:48 PM
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They both won SBs and they've both become even higher-profile since leaving the NFL with their TV careers, especially Gruden, who of course didn't even leave his last job voluntarily. And he won his SB primarily when he walked into a very good situation because Dungy knew how to put togehter
an outstanding defense.
Cowher on the other hand is far more impressive to me, but I suspect too many other opportunities for him to end up down here.
Gruden's first year in Tampa was his superbowl win. During that year Tampa Bay actually allowed 5 fewer points per game than they had the previous year under Dungy (from 17 ppg to 12). And he won a Superbowl with Brad Johnson, Michael Pittman, and Keenan McCardell as his top Passer, Rusher, and Receiver. That is a miraculous coaching job to win with that offensive talent (or lack thereof). He never duplicated that success and is not a guy I would line up and demand, but it is revisionist history to say he walked into a superbowl team like Switzer.

As for Cowher, he won a superbowl in his 2nd to last season of coaching. I don't think hunger is an issue even though he was 8-8 the following year. He also isn't higher profile now like you claimed. And if there were too many opportunities for him to end up here, his people wouldn't be floating his name out here for our job before it even opens.

We need two things in Houston (1) better defense, and (2) to create a winning culture. It would seem Cowher is a hit on both counts.

The only problem is it is looking more and more like this is all make believe and Kubiak will be back.
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Old 12-21-2010, 09:46 AM
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Actually i wouldn't mind have Shannys kid here to be the Texans HC, but that's clearly out of the question.
WOWZA!

I can't get excited about Cowher, since I honestly don't think this is in the cards for 2011 (if there is a 2011 season). I think McNair has already decided that Kubiak is coming back, and since he pays the bills......

Now, when , not if, we do the same damn thing next year, and if Cowher doesn't end up somewhere else this year.......
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