Do We Need a Change at HC?

[barrett]

Originally Posted by painekiller

please check out my post

Bum was talking about Don Shula. Not Bear Bryant.

My reason for voting in favor of Kubiak for one more year is if you go back through the season, we are only a handful of plays going in the other direction from being a top 5 team record wise.

I fear changing HC would mean a step back for a year or two, something none of us wants to do again.

Also if the team adds 3 new starters in the next draft that upgrades us like Cushing did, we would have to be a playoff team.... don't we?

A few thoughts.

How do we make those "handful of plays" next year with the same crew in key positions. An NFL team has an identity and a culture. Our team is an offensive team and there are only two places from which we can change the culture of our team, QB and Head Coach. To me, you can't have two guys deciding our fate who have never suceeded in their current jobs. And since replacing Schaub is equal to a do over, I think the easier switch is Kubiak.

Many teams change head coaches, and very few step back (unless there is a rebuilding goal). Many coaches like Dungy and Gruden stepped in and pushed there teams over the top. If you hire the right coach, nothing says you are going to step back a year or two.

How are we supposed pick up 3 guys in the draft that upgrade us like Cushing did?

Kubiak is great from Monday to Saturday, but he is a bad gameday coach. I just don't see this changing for him with on the job training. I think he'll leave Houston unsuccessful and it will be a few years of play calling as an OC before he works out the kinks and truly settles in as a Head Coach. Either way he helped move our franchise forward and I am grateful for that. I just think he has taken us as far as he is going to.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by barrett

How are we supposed pick up 3 guys in the draft that upgrade us like Cushing did?

In another thread I showed these off seasons moves.

1st Joe Haden CB Florida
trade our 1st and 2nd from 2011 for
1st Dan Williams DT/NT 6-3 322 Tennessee
2nd Jon Asamoah OG 06-4 308 Illinois
3rd Toby Gerhart RB 6-1 235 Stanford
4th Vince Oghobaase DT/NT 6-6 302 Duke
5th Mike Pouncey OG 6-5 315 Florida OG
6th Justin Woodall S 6-2 221 Alabama
Travis Johnson pick 6th Daniel Thomas RB 6-2 227 Kansas State
7th Darryl Sharpton LB 5-11 237 Miami

Haden takes the place of Dunta. You sign him and get him to camp. He will help this team.

Dan Williams has little Hayneworth in him IMO, he has the ability to split double teams and that makes a difference.

Asamoah and Pouncey are upgrades to the guys we have. Size with feet.

I want a defensive front 7 that is big strong and quick. If you read my post I make a move for Derrick Johnson. My front 7 would be, Smith, Robinson, Dan Williams, Mario Williams infront of Cushing Ryans and DJ. Your back up DL is made up of Barwin, Oghobaase, Okoya, Cody, Okam, Jamison, and Bulman.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by painekiller

In another thread I showed these off seasons moves.



Haden takes the place of Dunta. You sign him and get him to camp. He will help this team.

Dan Williams has little Hayneworth in him IMO, he has the ability to split double teams and that makes a difference.

Asamoah and Pouncey are upgrades to the guys we have. Size with feet.

I want a defensive front 7 that is big strong and quick. If you read my post I make a move for Derrick Johnson. My front 7 would be, Smith, Robinson, Dan Williams, Mario Williams infront of Cushing Ryans and DJ. Your back up DL is made up of Barwin, Oghobaase, Okoya, Cody, Okam, Jamison, and Bulman.

Oh...I guess it really is that simple to draft 3 great players in a draft.

And I agree with you that we don't need a coaching change if we can draft a high level corner, the next Albert Haynesworth, and two new interior line starters (along with a power back and a DT).

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by barrett

Oh...I guess it really is that simple to draft 3 great players in a draft.

And I agree with you that we don't need a coaching change if we can draft a high level corner, the next Albert Haynesworth, and two new interior line starters (along with a power back and a DT).

In my scenario only one of the OG starts now. They have to push each other. I would expect Pitts to be resigned or a FA OG to be signed.

No matter who we hire or don't hire, we are going to have 2 to 3 more quality players to add to the roster from the draft. Only a total idiot like Matt Millen ends up with garbage after a draft. Or your like the Pats of say 2003, your roster is loaded so deep, no rookie can make the team. We are not that deep. And we do not have Matt Millen drafting our team.

[painekiller]

Every time I start thinking Kubiak deserves one more year, they come out flatter than a pancake against a bad team. They made a rookie QB with journeyman OGs look solid. Again.

Why is this so hard? Our play calling is so predictable and it is not getting it done. Kubiak's stubbornness is going to cost him a HCing job.

[NBT]

Originally Posted by painekiller

Every time I start thinking Kubiak deserves one more year, they come out flatter than a pancake against a bad team. They made a rookie QB with journeyman OGs look solid. Again.

Why is this so hard? Our play calling is so predictable and it is not getting it done. Kubiak's stubbornness is going to cost him a HCing job.

That's why Kubiak absoulutely makes me want to tear my hair out. And then the quote when asked "if he could feel good after such a victory", he said "You'er dang right I can." Well, yes but......... And then there was Mario one week after his and Kubiak's heart to heart chat about his underperformance. Zero sacks, and except for a fumble rcovery, zero effort in the Rams game. This is kind of my whole reason for starting this thread to begin with. I look at Indy and their 14-0 record, and I ask why can't we stay motivated like that? Why can't Kubiak keep these men motivated?

[Nconroe]

You mean the Rams that were leading N.O. with 5 minutes to play and took Jacksonville to overtime.

Ok, our players made some mistakes.

I don't think it was lack of motivation though.

I thought Mario played well, several tackles for loss and fumble recovery, contained the run on his side, he is hurt you know.

I think I see lots of maturing on the team, some team leaders stepping up, including Schaub, that's good.

And next year we have a really brutal schedule.