Looking at Tight End Contracts

TheMatrix31 · #1 10-17-2009, 08:25 AM

Owen Daniels is CRUCIAL to our offense. I've counted WAY too many times where the guy's just come up absolutely huge. Once you have a guy like him that Schaub has developed a connection with, you just don't get rid of him. Third and three? Daniels will get it. Second and 12 with everyone covered? Daniels will get it.

Let's just hope his fumbleitis from a couple years ago doesn't prop up and cost us a game now.

NBT · #2 10-17-2009, 07:38 PM

No one is irreplaceable (at least not on the Texans). And I'm not at all sure O.D. is worth $5M big ones a year. Dreeson is starting to come in to his own, and the two rookies Casey and Hill will only get better. I think O.D. is gone after this year unless he just wants to play here and will settle for less.

kRocket · #3 10-18-2009, 12:42 PM

His value to a contender might be at an all-time high right now. Maybe a DT or CB or S or all of the above would be available now or we get nothing at all. I don't this team with Schaub at the helm is ever going to cross the line. Matt is a good guy, and a good quarterback. But, in my opinion he is never going to get us to the promise land. Oh well, that is another story.

Big Texas · #4 10-18-2009, 04:47 PM

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His value to a contender might be at an all-time high right now. Maybe a DT or CB or S or all of the above would be available now or we get nothing at all. I don't this team with Schaub at the helm is ever going to cross the line. Matt is a good guy, and a good quarterback. But, in my opinion he is never going to get us to the promise land. Oh well, that is another story.

WOW!!! After today...

NBT · #5 10-18-2009, 04:54 PM

Yeah Big T, but the writing is on the wall. They can only keep one of the two, either O.D., or Mr. Robinson. With 3 other TE's ( Casey, Dreeson, and Hill), which of the two do you think they will keep, and who do you think they will try and trade? My guess is it has to be O.D.

Big Texas · #6 10-18-2009, 05:08 PM

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Yeah Big T, but the writing is on the wall. They can only keep one of the two, either O.D., or Mr. Robinson. With 3 other TE's ( Casey, Dreeson, and Hill), which of the two do you think they will keep, and who do you think they will try and trade? My guess is it has to be O.D.

I agree it is a hard decision. At first I was on the train that thought that OD could be replaced; he was "merely a product of the system". But this guy is running some great pass pattern and making some spectacular catches; consistently. IMO he is a legitimate probowler. Not just because of today. He does all the time.

With that said, I feel a Phillip Rivers/Drew Brees situation arising. SD decided to go with their draft pick. Granted Rivers has been solid, but Brees has been elite since he's left. Did you see him torch NYG?

I guess if it were up to me I would demand top value for OD, especially if he makes the pro bowl. I'm talking first round. I know it seems pretty lofty, but Chicago just gave up a 2nd for "bust" Gaines Adams. I am sure we could find another sucker. No late round picks.

Maybe we move up to take Taylor Mays?

Nconroe · #7 10-18-2009, 09:51 PM

Well, the trading deadline is coming up this Tuesday I think. I think our coaches are in a need to win season, so I doubt OD or DR get traded, unless it is for a super difference maker DT and or OG or RB or FS , maybe. Maybe they acquire one of those, especially a dominant DT anyways if possible. I guess if OD and DR are good in the clubhouse, its uncapped year, if they sign for a fair amount because Texans are now a winner, keep em. If someone has lost it with the teammates or coaches then maybe gone.

kRocket · #8 10-19-2009, 12:43 AM

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WOW!!! After today...

Well, actually I wrote that before he played today. However, my feelings haven't really changed. He is a good quarterback and if things go his way he has a game like today, but if the team goes the other way like last week he is incapable of making a difference, it appears. That is why he has incredible stats until he hits the red zone but after that not so good.

I don't think he can take the Texans to the SB or deep into the Playoffs. Just my two cents.

popanot · #9 10-19-2009, 08:29 AM

What team out there would give the Texans what they would want for OD, which I assume would be a #1 or #2? I don't see any... Maybe for a player and a mid-to-low round pick, but depending on the player, I'm not sure that really helps the team this year or beyond.

I think TexanJedi brought up trading for Glenn Dorsey. I could see a fit with OD and the Chiefs, but does Dorsey help us? Would you do that??

nunusguy · #10 10-21-2009, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by popanot

What team out there would give the Texans what they would want for OD, which I assume would be a #1 or #2? I don't see any... Maybe for a player and a mid-to-low round pick, but depending on the player, I'm not sure that really helps the team this year or beyond.

I think TexanJedi brought up trading for Glenn Dorsey. I could see a fit with OD and the Chiefs, but does Dorsey help us? Would you do that??

Even though the trading deadline has passed, this is a subject which will probably will be carried over to the 2010 Draft & Offseason in general.
With Dressen, Casey, & blocking-TE Hill besides OD, we are really "too deep" at TE and with this over-commitment of precious resources at a single posiiton we should be able to part with OD for the right price, which has got to be nothing less that a high 2nd round pick or the equivalent in a combo of players/lower round pick(s).
OD just gets better and better all of the time and his performance yesterday was one of his best, but his market value may get too high for us to keep
him given the needs we have elsewhere, especially on defense ?