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Old 10-04-2009, 06:46 PM
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I always love these type of "what if" scenarios. So, let me try to get some names down on paper.

GM - Howie Roseman Currently VP player personnel
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/ea...seman_h_1.html

HC - Marty Mornhinweg Currently Assistent HC/Offensive OC
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/ea...nhinweg_1.html

OC - John Matsko Currently Ravens OL coach
http://www.baltimoreravens.com/Peopl...hn_Matsko.aspx

DC - Dennis Thurman Currently Jets Defensive Backs coach
http://www.newyorkjets.com/team/coac...dennis-thurman

This combo would create an attacking WCO that would utilize Slaton like Westbrook and create confusion and turnovers on defense. What's not to like?
I had forgotten about Morninghinweg, nice one.
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Old 10-11-2009, 07:57 PM
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I'm back to we need new leadership. Kubiak and his scheme is .500 ball.

I'm done with him, and you cannot sell me a Kubiak coached team next season.
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Old 10-11-2009, 08:00 PM
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As long as we can get some Philly folks, I'd be happy. Perhaps we would get some bigger O-Linemen and pass the ball and be happy. Maybe the D would actually create some pressure on the QB.
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Old 10-11-2009, 08:33 PM
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As long as we can get some Philly folks, I'd be happy. Perhaps we would get some bigger O-Linemen and pass the ball and be happy. Maybe the D would actually create some pressure on the QB.
I'm not real high on Philly. They have been above average for a decade and have never won anything. They have a one dimensional offense that doesn't run the ball and their defense got shredded by the only decent offense it has faced this year.
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Old 10-11-2009, 08:34 PM
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Who do you people suggest?
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Old 10-11-2009, 08:56 PM
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Who do you people suggest?
They few guys I liked where hired in the last the off season. Rex Ryan was my 1st choice. Jim Schwartz was my 2nd choice. And Mike Singletary was my 3rd choice. I also like Mike Nolan and he can be had.

Now I am open, unless Jeff Fisher becomes available.
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Old 10-11-2009, 09:13 PM
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I hear Tom Cable will be available.
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Old 10-11-2009, 10:44 PM
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Who do you people suggest?
GM - Howie Roseman Currently VP player personnel
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/ea...seman_h_1.html

HC - Marty Mornhinweg Currently Assistent HC/Offensive OC
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/ea...nhinweg_1.html

OC - Tom Clements Currently Packers QB coach
http://www.packers.com/team/coaches/clements_tom/

DC - Dennis Thurman Currently Jets Defensive Backs coach
http://www.newyorkjets.com/team/coac...dennis-thurman


I think I put this somewhere. I'm not married to Thurman at the DC. I'd be more than happy to get someone on Jim Johnson's coaching tree like Rory Segrest or Bill Shuey. Before we hired Frank Bush, I was hopeful we'd at least interview Sean McDermott (who has taken over since JJ's death for the Eagles).
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Old 10-11-2009, 08:50 PM
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I'm not real high on Philly. They have been above average for a decade and have never won anything. They have a one dimensional offense that doesn't run the ball and their defense got shredded by the only decent offense it has faced this year.
That is the HC calling the plays. Once he passed off the play calling last season they won 6 in arow with a balanced attach. Laugh if you want
but Mornhinweg has an excellent resume.
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Old 10-12-2009, 07:29 PM
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I'm not real high on Philly. They have been above average for a decade and have never won anything.
Above average for a decade looks really nice from where I'm sitting.
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Old 10-12-2009, 08:51 PM
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Above average for a decade looks really nice from where I'm sitting.
Isn't that what McNair bought into when he turned his team into South Denver?

NFL is not for long. Just sayin'. Maybe the Eagles system would prove to be better than the Broncos system. Depends on the person. Just look at the New England system. After Belichick, and before this initial run by McDaniels, guys from the Pats system haven't been locks for success.

Teams take on the personality of their head coach. So what personality do we want?
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Old 10-12-2009, 09:31 PM
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I'll tell you who I want and why...

JON "shut those kids up" GRUDEN

When he was with the Raiders, they went 8-8 his first two seasons. Then, 12-4 where they won the AFC West and went to the AFC Championship game and lost to Baltimore. As you recall, Baltimore won that SB.

The next season they went 10-6, won the division again, and then played the Patriots in the playoffs in a snowstorm. Remember the tuck rule by Tommy Brady? That game. Patriots won the SB a few weeks later.

Everybody says he's a loser because of Tampa after he won the SB. And they all say it was Dungy's team that won it. Well, who's team did he play in that SB? His old Raider team.

Tampa Bay: Had the Bucs not given those draft picks away to get Gruden they still would've had trouble because of impending salary cap issues which lasted through 2007. That's why Parcells turned the job down.


11 seasons, 5 Division Championships
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Old 10-13-2009, 12:22 AM
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So what personality do we want?
Umm...Sean Payton has a job.

What is Jim Fassell doing these days?
Could we get Al Groh away from Virginia?

Anyone heard of Tim Murphy or Rick Minter at Cinci?

Maybe Todd Bowles of Miami would be sufficient.
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Old 10-12-2009, 07:08 PM
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I'm back to we need new leadership. Kubiak and his scheme is .500 ball.

I'm done with him, and you cannot sell me a Kubiak coached team next season.
I'm kinda thinking the same way. If McNair says he is tired of .500 seasons and means it, then we are in for a HC change. Who? I don't have any idea. I will say that is up to you young tyros. I do know that in the last several years Pgh went young and now have 2 SB's to show for it. Baltimore, Denver, KC, and several others have gone to young head coaches with some good experience and they seem to be the wave of the future. So, are there any more out there like that?
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Old 10-12-2009, 07:40 PM
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So, are there any more out there like that?
http://www.vikings.com/team/coaches/...6-956773a7b83e

Darrel Bevell enters his 4th season as Offensive Coordinator of the Vikings in 2009.

When Brad Childress began building his Minnesota Vikings coaching staff he had certain qualities in mind for the men who would lead the team into the future. Childress wanted coaches who were good teachers, hard workers and dedicated to the task. Childress had seen all of those qualities years earlier in a gritty QB who led his 1993 Wisconsin Badger squad to the school’s 1st Big Ten title and Rose Bowl berth in 31 years.

http://www.neworleanssaints.com/Team...hael%20Jr.aspx

Promoted to offensive coordinator for 2009 after working with the quarterbacks for the last three seasons, Pete Carmichael has been a key contributor in the planning and preparation of the Saints’ record-setting passing attack since 2006.
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Old 10-15-2009, 02:47 PM
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http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...v=ap&type=lgns

An idea for if things get much worse. I'd say if we drop 3 games under .500.
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Old 10-15-2009, 06:58 PM
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I tell you, even though they lost, I was pretty impressed with Brian Schottenheimer Monday night. He seems to have developed a good scheme and game plan even with a rookie QB. I know they have a good OL and RBs (better than ours, at least), but he calls a good game and seems to have a really good sideline demeanor. You could tell Ryan has given him full control of the offense. Can't really question his pedigree either... I'd certainly put him on the interview list if I'm McNair and looking next year.
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Old 10-15-2009, 07:32 PM
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Are you thinking Schottenheimer as a head coach?

The Jets are 24th in offense and 20th in scoring. Not to mention he has a total of 5 games experience as a coordinator. He would challenge Raheem Morris for least qualified NFL head coach. He's actually far less qualified than Shanahan, who many on this board think is not qualified to be the OC.

I know that sometimes you hit it out of the park with a young guy but far more often you don't. I think I'd open the wallet and pay for someone with a track record long enough to tell me what I am getting. Especially since so many franchises are trying to save money by not paying big named coaches. It means that a team that is willing to can get it done. Why not make a huge offer to Bill Cowher or Tony Dungy?

Why try to catch lightning in a bottle and risk getting burned when you can just open your wallet and buy the same lightning with a gaurantee.
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Old 10-15-2009, 08:30 PM
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Of course I'd prefer they hire a big-name coach and have stated such in this very thread. I think Holmgren or Gruden would be the most likely big-name coaches that would be willing to come to Houston that would be within McNair's price range. I just don't think it will happen. Certainly not Cowher or Shanahan who will probably have much better choices of location and money elsewhere. You really think McNair is going to outbid Dallas, Washington, Oakland or possibly Carolina (where Cowher lives)? I don't. I'm not even including Dungy because I think he's done coaching.

As for Schottenheimer, I'm throwing his name out there because he's a young assistant with NFL experience and someone who I can see being a potential HC candidate that would interest McNair. Schottenheimer was considered for the HC job in Miami when Saban left and was also a candidate for the Jets HC job before they hired Ryan, so his name is out there amoung HC candidates. I don't think it's all that crazy to have his name in the mix. I can certainly see him being a hot candidate if the Jets make the playoffs with a rookie QB.

EDIT: BTW, I think he's been OC for more than 5 games and I'm pretty sure has a little more experience than Raheem Morris... Maybe he doesn't have the one of best offenses in the league, but they haven't been all that bad and they can play both finesse and smash-mouth. That's something that's sorely lacking at Reliant.

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Old 10-15-2009, 09:58 PM
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Are you thinking Schottenheimer as a head coach?

The Jets are 24th in offense and 20th in scoring. Not to mention he has a total of 5 games experience as a coordinator. He would challenge Raheem Morris for least qualified NFL head coach. He's actually far less qualified than Shanahan, who many on this board think is not qualified to be the OC.
He has a rookie QB, and almost no WRs until this past week. Also with Ryans scheme on defense the offense is expected to not loose games more so than win them.

As for experience, his resume is sound, and his pedigree is also tops.
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