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Old 10-11-2009, 07:57 PM
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I'm back to we need new leadership. Kubiak and his scheme is .500 ball.

I'm done with him, and you cannot sell me a Kubiak coached team next season.
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Old 10-11-2009, 08:00 PM
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As long as we can get some Philly folks, I'd be happy. Perhaps we would get some bigger O-Linemen and pass the ball and be happy. Maybe the D would actually create some pressure on the QB.
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Old 10-11-2009, 08:33 PM
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As long as we can get some Philly folks, I'd be happy. Perhaps we would get some bigger O-Linemen and pass the ball and be happy. Maybe the D would actually create some pressure on the QB.
I'm not real high on Philly. They have been above average for a decade and have never won anything. They have a one dimensional offense that doesn't run the ball and their defense got shredded by the only decent offense it has faced this year.
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Old 10-11-2009, 08:34 PM
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Who do you people suggest?
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Old 10-11-2009, 08:56 PM
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Who do you people suggest?
They few guys I liked where hired in the last the off season. Rex Ryan was my 1st choice. Jim Schwartz was my 2nd choice. And Mike Singletary was my 3rd choice. I also like Mike Nolan and he can be had.

Now I am open, unless Jeff Fisher becomes available.
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Old 10-11-2009, 09:13 PM
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I hear Tom Cable will be available.
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Old 10-11-2009, 09:53 PM
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Mornhinweg can have the best resume in the world, but all fans will remember is his failed tenure with the lowly Lions. If this team hires him it will prove to me McNair has no clue at all and I'll bet season ticket sales will go into the toilet. If they want to raid the Eagles for some of their front office people, I'm good with that as they've shown they know how to run a franchise with an eye on fiscal responsibility.
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Old 10-11-2009, 10:19 PM
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I hear Tom Cable will be available.
Nope. He's going to be coaching a team that wears striped britches. And I'm not talking about today's Broncos.
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Old 10-11-2009, 10:44 PM
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Who do you people suggest?
GM - Howie Roseman Currently VP player personnel
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/ea...seman_h_1.html

HC - Marty Mornhinweg Currently Assistent HC/Offensive OC
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/ea...nhinweg_1.html

OC - Tom Clements Currently Packers QB coach
http://www.packers.com/team/coaches/clements_tom/

DC - Dennis Thurman Currently Jets Defensive Backs coach
http://www.newyorkjets.com/team/coac...dennis-thurman


I think I put this somewhere. I'm not married to Thurman at the DC. I'd be more than happy to get someone on Jim Johnson's coaching tree like Rory Segrest or Bill Shuey. Before we hired Frank Bush, I was hopeful we'd at least interview Sean McDermott (who has taken over since JJ's death for the Eagles).
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Old 10-11-2009, 08:50 PM
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I'm not real high on Philly. They have been above average for a decade and have never won anything. They have a one dimensional offense that doesn't run the ball and their defense got shredded by the only decent offense it has faced this year.
That is the HC calling the plays. Once he passed off the play calling last season they won 6 in arow with a balanced attach. Laugh if you want
but Mornhinweg has an excellent resume.
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Old 10-12-2009, 07:29 PM
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I'm not real high on Philly. They have been above average for a decade and have never won anything.
Above average for a decade looks really nice from where I'm sitting.
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Old 10-12-2009, 08:51 PM
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Above average for a decade looks really nice from where I'm sitting.
Isn't that what McNair bought into when he turned his team into South Denver?

NFL is not for long. Just sayin'. Maybe the Eagles system would prove to be better than the Broncos system. Depends on the person. Just look at the New England system. After Belichick, and before this initial run by McDaniels, guys from the Pats system haven't been locks for success.

Teams take on the personality of their head coach. So what personality do we want?
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Old 10-12-2009, 09:31 PM
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I'll tell you who I want and why...

JON "shut those kids up" GRUDEN

When he was with the Raiders, they went 8-8 his first two seasons. Then, 12-4 where they won the AFC West and went to the AFC Championship game and lost to Baltimore. As you recall, Baltimore won that SB.

The next season they went 10-6, won the division again, and then played the Patriots in the playoffs in a snowstorm. Remember the tuck rule by Tommy Brady? That game. Patriots won the SB a few weeks later.

Everybody says he's a loser because of Tampa after he won the SB. And they all say it was Dungy's team that won it. Well, who's team did he play in that SB? His old Raider team.

Tampa Bay: Had the Bucs not given those draft picks away to get Gruden they still would've had trouble because of impending salary cap issues which lasted through 2007. That's why Parcells turned the job down.


11 seasons, 5 Division Championships
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Old 10-12-2009, 11:33 PM
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I'll tell you who I want and why...

JON "shut those kids up" GRUDEN

11 seasons, 5 Division Championships
Oh, I love Gruden. Would love to go to a bar and drink beer with him and listen to him talk about the Wildcat. Would go to practice and listen to him say, "are you out of your freakin' mind, are you outta your skull?" However, I don't want him running this team. He's gone from genius to crazy.

The players have to buy in to what the coach is preaching. No way in Hell, do our players pick up what he's preachin' now.

Gruden is a fascination of mine. I always want to hear what he says, which is why I'm glad he's on t.v. He reminds me of some of my Drill Instructors from Parris Island.

Right now, he's on a research and study session. If Shannahan gets hired by the Redskins, Cowboys, Bills, or whoever, it will be interesting to see if he hires Gruden to be the O.C. (assuming Kubiak or "lil Shan" isn't available).
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Old 10-13-2009, 07:11 PM
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I'll tell you who I want and why...

JON "shut those kids up" GRUDEN
Well, according to 610 this afternoon, Gruden is not only a name to replace Kubiak being bantered about, but also the guy being talked about to replace Jim Zorn in D.C.
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Old 10-13-2009, 12:22 AM
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So what personality do we want?
Umm...Sean Payton has a job.

What is Jim Fassell doing these days?
Could we get Al Groh away from Virginia?

Anyone heard of Tim Murphy or Rick Minter at Cinci?

Maybe Todd Bowles of Miami would be sufficient.
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Old 10-13-2009, 01:33 AM
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Kenny Anderson is the Steelers QB coach, remember him being the original WCO QB? Look it up, Walsh was his QB coach under HC Paul Brown. That is where the WCO started to take shape. It's based on the Paul Brown and Sid Gillman coaching tree.
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Old 10-13-2009, 03:40 AM
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What is Jim Fassell doing these days?
http://www.ufl-football.com/teams/la...otives/coaches
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Old 10-13-2009, 09:58 AM
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Umm...Sean Payton has a job.

What is Jim Fassell doing these days?
Could we get Al Groh away from Virginia?

Anyone heard of Tim Murphy or Rick Minter at Cinci?

Maybe Todd Bowles of Miami would be sufficient.
The Virginia team that gets beat by William and Mary? Groh was hot at one point, but I do not think his star is very bright at this time.
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Old 10-12-2009, 07:08 PM
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I'm back to we need new leadership. Kubiak and his scheme is .500 ball.

I'm done with him, and you cannot sell me a Kubiak coached team next season.
I'm kinda thinking the same way. If McNair says he is tired of .500 seasons and means it, then we are in for a HC change. Who? I don't have any idea. I will say that is up to you young tyros. I do know that in the last several years Pgh went young and now have 2 SB's to show for it. Baltimore, Denver, KC, and several others have gone to young head coaches with some good experience and they seem to be the wave of the future. So, are there any more out there like that?
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