Front Office/HC/OC/DC who do you want? - Page 3

NBT · #41 10-12-2009, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by painekiller

I'm back to we need new leadership. Kubiak and his scheme is .500 ball.

I'm done with him, and you cannot sell me a Kubiak coached team next season.

I'm kinda thinking the same way. If McNair says he is tired of .500 seasons and means it, then we are in for a HC change. Who? I don't have any idea. I will say that is up to you young tyros. I do know that in the last several years Pgh went young and now have 2 SB's to show for it. Baltimore, Denver, KC, and several others have gone to young head coaches with some good experience and they seem to be the wave of the future. So, are there any more out there like that?

Roy P · #42 10-12-2009, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by barrett

I'm not real high on Philly. They have been above average for a decade and have never won anything.

Above average for a decade looks really nice from where I'm sitting.

Roy P · #43 10-12-2009, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by NBT

So, are there any more out there like that?

http://www.vikings.com/team/coaches/...6-956773a7b83e

Darrel Bevell enters his 4th season as Offensive Coordinator of the Vikings in 2009.

When Brad Childress began building his Minnesota Vikings coaching staff he had certain qualities in mind for the men who would lead the team into the future. Childress wanted coaches who were good teachers, hard workers and dedicated to the task. Childress had seen all of those qualities years earlier in a gritty QB who led his 1993 Wisconsin Badger squad to the school’s 1st Big Ten title and Rose Bowl berth in 31 years.

http://www.neworleanssaints.com/Team...hael%20Jr.aspx

Promoted to offensive coordinator for 2009 after working with the quarterbacks for the last three seasons, Pete Carmichael has been a key contributor in the planning and preparation of the Saints’ record-setting passing attack since 2006.

Keith · #44 10-12-2009, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Roy P

Above average for a decade looks really nice from where I'm sitting.

Isn't that what McNair bought into when he turned his team into South Denver?

NFL is not for long. Just sayin'. Maybe the Eagles system would prove to be better than the Broncos system. Depends on the person. Just look at the New England system. After Belichick, and before this initial run by McDaniels, guys from the Pats system haven't been locks for success.

Teams take on the personality of their head coach. So what personality do we want?

coloradodude · #45 10-12-2009, 08:31 PM

I'll tell you who I want and why...

JON "shut those kids up" GRUDEN

When he was with the Raiders, they went 8-8 his first two seasons. Then, 12-4 where they won the AFC West and went to the AFC Championship game and lost to Baltimore. As you recall, Baltimore won that SB.

The next season they went 10-6, won the division again, and then played the Patriots in the playoffs in a snowstorm. Remember the tuck rule by Tommy Brady? That game. Patriots won the SB a few weeks later.

Everybody says he's a loser because of Tampa after he won the SB. And they all say it was Dungy's team that won it. Well, who's team did he play in that SB? His old Raider team.

Tampa Bay: Had the Bucs not given those draft picks away to get Gruden they still would've had trouble because of impending salary cap issues which lasted through 2007. That's why Parcells turned the job down.

11 seasons, 5 Division Championships

Roy P · #46 10-12-2009, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by coloradodude

I'll tell you who I want and why...

JON "shut those kids up" GRUDEN

11 seasons, 5 Division Championships

Oh, I love Gruden. Would love to go to a bar and drink beer with him and listen to him talk about the Wildcat. Would go to practice and listen to him say, "are you out of your freakin' mind, are you outta your skull?" However, I don't want him running this team. He's gone from genius to crazy.

The players have to buy in to what the coach is preaching. No way in Hell, do our players pick up what he's preachin' now.

Gruden is a fascination of mine. I always want to hear what he says, which is why I'm glad he's on t.v. He reminds me of some of my Drill Instructors from Parris Island.

Right now, he's on a research and study session. If Shannahan gets hired by the Redskins, Cowboys, Bills, or whoever, it will be interesting to see if he hires Gruden to be the O.C. (assuming Kubiak or "lil Shan" isn't available).

Roy P · #47 10-12-2009, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith

So what personality do we want?

Umm...Sean Payton has a job.

What is Jim Fassell doing these days?
Could we get Al Groh away from Virginia?

Anyone heard of Tim Murphy or Rick Minter at Cinci?

Maybe Todd Bowles of Miami would be sufficient.

painekiller · #48 10-13-2009, 12:33 AM

Kenny Anderson is the Steelers QB coach, remember him being the original WCO QB? Look it up, Walsh was his QB coach under HC Paul Brown. That is where the WCO started to take shape. It's based on the Paul Brown and Sid Gillman coaching tree.

painekiller · #49 10-13-2009, 01:44 AM

How about HC Bruce Coslet
OC Ken Anderson
QB coach Turk Schonert
OL Bruce Matthews

Defense
DC Pepper Johnson

I want the offense to attach attach attach, and I want the defense to confuse confuse confuse

chuck · #50 10-13-2009, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Roy P

What is Jim Fassell doing these days?

http://www.ufl-football.com/teams/la...otives/coaches

nunusguy · #51 10-13-2009, 07:22 AM

What about Greg Williams ? Atleast we might finally have a defense with him in charge.

Mike · #52 10-13-2009, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Roy P

Umm...Sean Payton has a job.

What is Jim Fassell doing these days?
Could we get Al Groh away from Virginia?

Anyone heard of Tim Murphy or Rick Minter at Cinci?

Maybe Todd Bowles of Miami would be sufficient.

The Virginia team that gets beat by William and Mary? Groh was hot at one point, but I do not think his star is very bright at this time.

popanot · #53 10-13-2009, 10:37 AM

Unfortunately the guy I wanted them to hire after Capers is not willing to leave his college coaching gig. That person would be none other than, Kirk Ferentz. IMO, he runs the closest thing to a pro-style offense and defense in college football and I think he and his system would translate well to the NFL.

Roy P · #54 10-13-2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by chuck

http://www.ufl-football.com/teams/la...otives/coaches

I like it. Give me Fassell. I'm putting all my chips in the middle of the table...
His team beat the crap out of the California Redwoods. He did that with J.P. Losman at QB, now that's coaching.

http://www.ufl-football.com/content/.../UFL_CA_LV.pdf

chuck · #55 10-13-2009, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Roy P

I like it. Give me Fassell. I'm putting all my chips in the middle of the table...
His team beat the crap out of the California Redwoods. He did that with J.P. Losman at QB, now that's coaching.
http://www.ufl-football.com/content/.../UFL_CA_LV.pdf

I was actually in Las Vegas the day of the game but too stupid to realize that it was happening.

Roy P · #56 10-13-2009, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by coloradodude

I'll tell you who I want and why...

JON "shut those kids up" GRUDEN

Well, according to 610 this afternoon, Gruden is not only a name to replace Kubiak being bantered about, but also the guy being talked about to replace Jim Zorn in D.C.

Warren · #57 10-14-2009, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by popanot

Unfortunately the guy I wanted them to hire after Capers is not willing to leave his college coaching gig. That person would be none other than, Kirk Ferentz. IMO, he runs the closest thing to a pro-style offense and defense in college football and I think he and his system would translate well to the NFL.

Ferentz was at or near the top of my list too back then -- I liked the ability to spot and/or develop talent he showed with unheralded recruits like Bob Sanders, Dallas Clark, Chad Greenway, and Robert Gallery, his NFL and OL background, and his Belichick coaching tree pedigree (although as Keith points out, that hasn't exactly been an indicator of success upon further review). Iowa looked like it was slipping back into mediocrity since then but has turned that around so far this year. When Scott Pioli was talking to the Browns and then eventually became the Chiefs' GM it was rumored that Ferentz would be joining him, and Iowa extended his contract through 2015.

Warren · #58 10-14-2009, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by nunusguy

What about Greg Williams ? Atleast we might finally have a defense with him in charge.

He's intriguing to me. I've read some quotes from people close to the Bills who said his failed tenure in Buffalo was more a result personnel issues (particularly QB) than coaching. As defensive coordinator in Washington he generally got good results but there were stories about him being an arrogant jerk who lost many of his players by disrepecting them, above and beyond just coaching them hard. Still, other players have had nothing but good things to say about him and he's obviously getting it done in New Orleans. FWIW, he's also a former Oiler and UH graduate assistant.

Nconroe · #59 10-15-2009, 01:02 PM

Texans chick has some interesting info about being a young NFL team at her blog. And on the experience of DC's.

http://blogs.chron.com/texanschick/2...texans_as.html

one might think Texans are just too young to be successful at the moment.

barrett · #60 10-15-2009, 01:47 PM

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...v=ap&type=lgns

An idea for if things get much worse. I'd say if we drop 3 games under .500.