Ryans and Drob Skipping Workouts

[painekiller]

Come on now, this is the business side of the game. Right now they are only doing workouts to "get into shape". And both guys are known for their hard work and all.

I was actually happy Duanta is not here, he is at a speed camp, good. He needs to be able to work on regaining the quickness he lost. This will only help.

BTW when will a team get smart and hire a speed guy to work out with it's players.

And I heard a radio interview with one of the OL guys from somewhere, and the big guys are coming up with a camp for them to get work on drills especially for them.

Lastly, this is all Negotiation 101, is wait the other guy out. And going public is the a way for the players to pressure the management.

Right now Rick Smith is doing OK, Duanta turned down a very nice deal and his leverage was taken away, now he is pissed. Oh well. Should have signed that huge deal when it was offered. What if the team drafts a younger version, bye bye leverage.

Ryan's is due, and IMO gets a big deal before the start of the season. Right now the GM is working on the draft, then it's filling out a roster, then and only then will he have time to work on these deals.

[Arky]

The Chronic had this in the morning paper:

Full article.

[Bigtinylittle]

I really don't care for negotiations drama. I always press my ignore button and wait for the final outcome. Agents lie and posture about as much as politicans do, and they instruct their clients to do the same.

By the way, I ignore politicians too. I don't think I've listened to more than a couple of political speeches in the last twenty years. And I don't think I've missed a thing.

[nunusguy]

• Right now, I think there is a better chance of Dunta Robinson playing for a team other than the Texans by 2010. While I love DRob and want him back, if he is dead set on leaving the Texans as soon as he can then Rick Smith should be shopping him before and during the draft. My best guess is that the Texans could get a 2nd rounder for Robinson.
http://blogs.chron.com/fantasyfootba...4/post_87.html
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So say Lance Zierlein in his "Z Report".
I always had doubts about D-Robs desire to stay here before his dust-up with
GM Smith, but now I'd also agree with LZ that the Texans ought to cut their losses and deal him for a pick if this is really what he (Robinson) has in mind.

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

• My best guess is that the Texans could get a 2nd rounder for Robinson.

I'd also agree with LZ that the Texans ought to cut their losses and deal him for a pick if this is really what he (Robinson) has in mind.

Maybe we could draft Asher Allen or Keenan Lewis to develop and be done with the D-rama from D-Rob.

[dalemurphy]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

• Right now, I think there is a better chance of Dunta Robinson playing for a team other than the Texans by 2010. While I love DRob and want him back, if he is dead set on leaving the Texans as soon as he can then Rick Smith should be shopping him before and during the draft. My best guess is that the Texans could get a 2nd rounder for Robinson.
http://blogs.chron.com/fantasyfootba...4/post_87.html
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So say Lance Zierlein in his "Z Report".
I always had doubts about D-Robs desire to stay here before his dust-up with
GM Smith, but now I'd also agree with LZ that the Texans ought to cut their losses and deal him for a pick if this is really what he (Robinson) has in mind.

If the team takes care of its business with guys like Demeco and OD this season then Dunta won't go anywhere unless we let him... we can tag him again next year for a little less than $12 million. I know that's not ideal but it's an important tool to use, either as a bargaining chip, a means to work out a trade, or a last resort to keep a probowl caliber CB.

[nunusguy]

I blame it all on Smith. Other teams have players like D-Rob who are high-strung, egotistical, very emotional but at the same time fierce competitors who are team leaders and overachievers who set high standards for their teammates by their efforts and their desire and determination to win.
But you don't tell a guy like D-Rob one thing and then renege on your promise after you fail to negotiate the contract you wanted him to sign.
I'm thinking what D-Rob is making this year and was offered in terms of a long-term deal was more than fair compensation, but that's beside the point. Guy like D-Rob, he's high-principled and plays by his his own drummer and own standards and Smith didn't handle him right. The young GM blundered badly.

[papabear]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

I blame it all on Smith. Other teams have players like D-Rob who are high-strung, egotistical, very emotional but at the same time fierce competitors who are team leaders and overachievers who set high standards for their teammates by their efforts and their desire and determination to win.
But you don't tell a guy like D-Rob one thing and then renege on your promise after you fail to negotiate the contract you wanted him to sign.
I'm thinking what D-Rob is making this year and was offered in terms of a long-term deal was more than fair compensation, but that's beside the point. Guy like D-Rob, he's high-principled and plays by his his own drummer and own standards and Smith didn't handle him right. The young GM blundered badly.

I agree that Smith probably could have handled it better, but he had every right to change his mind. He should have let them know when they turned down the offer that he was going to have to franchise him. D-Rob turned down the offer before Smith made his blunder by changing his tune, so the way Smith handled the Franchise tag had nothing to do with the offer being refused. Even aadmitting fault n Smith's part Dunta is probably over-reacting. He could have handled the situation better as well. Gone to the Texans and say I don't want to play with the tag so let's get something done.


On another point....did anyone see what the Bucs gave Winslow:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4047667


OD's price just went up...making getting all three of these guys signed long term even harder.