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Old 03-30-2009, 10:43 PM
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I've got a feeling Sidbury is going a lot earlier than most people think.

he has made a name for himself since they misspelled his name at the Shriners game.
Damn it! I wanted Sidbuby in the 3rd!
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I'm just sitting here thinking (pacing, actually) that whatever my issues with Kubiak he is apparently a goddam genius at tutoring quarterbacks.
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Old 03-31-2009, 09:31 AM
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Okay, here's my first stab at things playing around with two early trade downs. I didn't get too specific with my trades, so here are two approximated trades:
1. 15 - 26, 57
2. 26- 37, 68

so, here you go:

37. Larry English
46. Eric Wood
57. W. Moore
68. Shonn Greene
77. Ellerbe
112. Bruton
122. Terrence Taylor
148. J. Knox
185. Javaris Williams
226. PJ Hill


thoughts?

as for me, it seems clear that we really need to work hard to trade down into those middle rounds. I don't have the chart in front of me, but I'm pretty sure those values are quite attainable.
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Old 03-31-2009, 08:13 PM
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1. 15 - 26, 57
2. 26- 37, 68

so, here you go:

37. Larry English
46. Eric Wood
57. W. Moore
68. Shonn Greene
77. Ellerbe
112. Bruton
122. Terrence Taylor
148. J. Knox
185. Javaris Williams
226. PJ Hill


thoughts?
15 for 26 & 57 makes us short 20 points, so maybe we get an extra 6th rounder (185 for example). Is that your Javarris Williams pick? We already have #188.

26 for 37 & 68 is 80 points to valuable, so we'd have to give up #112 (70 points) to make it comparable.
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Old 04-03-2009, 03:07 AM
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Here's a mock with only one trade: 15 to Phillie for 28 and 53.

28. Clint Sintim
46. Sean Smith
53. Eric Wood
77. Shonn Greene
112. David Bruton
122. Terrence Taylor
5th. Javaris Williams
6th. Quann Cosby
7th. Lydon Murtha

I really love this one. But, I'm skeptical about Sean Smith lasting that late after his pro day results and certainly I've been skeptical about Shonn Greene last into the third round. Thoughts?
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Old 04-03-2009, 06:18 AM
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Here's a mock with only one trade: 15 to Phillie for 28 and 53.

28. Clint Sintim
46. Sean Smith
53. Eric Wood
77. Shonn Greene
112. David Bruton
122. Terrence Taylor
5th. Javaris Williams
6th. Quann Cosby
7th. Lydon Murtha

I really love this one. But, I'm skeptical about Sean Smith lasting that late after his pro day results and certainly I've been skeptical about Shonn Greene last into the third round. Thoughts?
I like the players but I think its even more unlikely that Wood is still available in the middle of the third round than Smith in the second.
Re Smith, yea Utah doesn't have that same ring to it as "The Ohio state" university when it comes to football pedigree, but the reality is Smith is very comparable to Malcolm Jenkins but even bigger.
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Old 04-03-2009, 08:40 AM
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Sintim played for Virginia right...since there's a law that we take at least one Virginia player every year I've been thinking that we somehow end up with him. SLB/RDE type right?
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Old 04-03-2009, 09:14 AM
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I like the players but I think its even more unlikely that Wood is still available in the middle of the third round than Smith in the second.
Re Smith, yea Utah doesn't have that same ring to it as "The Ohio state" university when it comes to football pedigree, but the reality is Smith is very comparable to Malcolm Jenkins but even bigger.
pick #53 (Eric Wood) is the 21st pick of the 2nd round... certainly, he could be gone by then, but I think it's reasonable that he could be there.
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Old 04-04-2009, 08:11 AM
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pick #53 (Eric Wood) is the 21st pick of the 2nd round... certainly, he could be gone by then, but I think it's reasonable that he could be there.
Woops ! You're right, I shot without aiming. I saw your first 3 picks but didn't check the trade and assumed it was rounds 1, 2 , 3 for those 3 picks. Sorry !
Anyway, I'd love to make that trade and end up with 2 second rounders no matter who we might end up taking.
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Old 04-04-2009, 12:46 PM
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Here's a mock with only one trade: 15 to Phillie for 28 and 53.

28. Clint Sintim
46. Sean Smith
53. Eric Wood
77. Shonn Greene
112. David Bruton
122. Terrence Taylor
5th. Javaris Williams
6th. Quann Cosby
7th. Lydon Murtha

I really love this one. But, I'm skeptical about Sean Smith lasting that late after his pro day results and certainly I've been skeptical about Shonn Greene last into the third round. Thoughts?
I took a long look at Shonn Greene vs. Rashad Jennings in my mock. I also considered Andre Brown at #53. This is who I selected...
Sel--Pos--Name-----------School---------Index
28.--DT--Ziggy Hood-------Missouri-------5.79
46.--OC--Eric Wood--------Louisville------5.00
53.--DE--Paul Kruger-------Utah----------4.82
77.--RB--Rashad Jennings--Liberty--------5.76
112.-SS--David Bruton-----Notre Dame----5.75
122.-LB--Scott McKillop----Pittsburgh-----5.58
5th.-FS--Chris Clemons----Clemson--------5.09
6th.-DT--Roy Miller--------Texas----------5.31
7th.-CB--Don Carey-------Norfolk State---4.84

I am under the impressions that Ziggy Hood and Okoye can both play at the same time, moving TJ to the bench as part of a rotation. When we need to stop the run on goal line situations, Roy Miller can play a more traditional NT.

Paul Kruger is my situational pass-rusher. He is a cheaper version of Clint Sintim, in my opinion. Kruger is also better against the run.

As I said, I debated Greene vs. Jennings at #77. I took Jennings because he's a little more agile and explosive. He also is younger, so we may see him continue to improve. Greene was productive last year in college, but he may be at his maximum potential since he's already 24 years old.

Unfortunately, I was unable to garner a WLB in this draft. McKillop is a run-stuffing SAM. I was holding out hope that McGrath would be on the board at #112, since I was unable to draft Matthews in the 1st round.

I am pleased to have Bruton, Clemons, and Carey to add to the Secondary.

Wood is my favorite pick because he can play RG or OC.
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Old 04-04-2009, 12:50 PM
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I took a long look at Shonn Greene vs. Rashad Jennings in my mock. I also considered Andre Brown at #53. This is who I selected...
Sel--Pos--Name-----------School---------Index
28.--DT--Ziggy Hood-------Missouri-------5.79
46.--OC--Eric Wood--------Louisville------5.00
53.--DE--Paul Kruger-------Utah----------4.82
77.--RB--Rashad Jennings--Liberty--------5.76
112.-SS--David Bruton-----Notre Dame----5.75
122.-LB--Scott McKillop----Pittsburgh-----5.58
5th.-FS--Chris Clemons----Clemson--------5.09
6th.-DT--Roy Miller--------Texas----------5.31
7th.-CB--Don Carey-------Norfolk State---4.84

I am under the impressions that Ziggy Hood and Okoye can both play at the same time, moving TJ to the bench as part of a rotation. When we need to stop the run on goal line situations, Roy Miller can play a more traditional NT.

Paul Kruger is my situational pass-rusher. He is a cheaper version of Clint Sintim, in my opinion. Kruger is also better against the run.

As I said, I debated Greene vs. Jennings at #77. I took Jennings because he's a little more agile and explosive. He also is younger, so we may see him continue to improve. Greene was productive last year in college, but he may be at his maximum potential since he's already 24 years old.

Unfortunately, I was unable to garner a WLB in this draft. McKillop is a run-stuffing SAM. I was holding out hope that McGrath would be on the board at #112, since I was unable to draft Matthews in the 1st round.

I am pleased to have Bruton, Clemons, and Carey to add to the Secondary.

Wood is my favorite pick because he can play RG or OC.

Well, I wouldn't worry about WLB in the draft now, we just signed Cato June in addition to Buster Davis. That give us 8 LBs that I think belong in the NFL (perhaps Buster Davis doesn't, we'll see) and all of them, with the exception of Chaun Thompson can play WLB: DRyans, Bentley, Adibi, Diles, Coley, CJune, BDavis
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Old 04-04-2009, 01:22 PM
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Outside of Bently though I don't think we have a true Sam on the Roster.

I imagine that it kinda looks like this now:

SLB:

Bentley competes with Diles and Coley

MLB:

Ryans is the starter with Diles, Cato June and Possibly Coley as the backups

WLB:

Adibi competes with Cato June, Buster Davis, and Diles

DRyans, Bentley, Adibi, Diles, Coley, CJune, BDavis
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