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Old 03-21-2009, 01:50 PM
Blitzwood Blitzwood is offline
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Roy,
you're right, you can't make everyone happy.
(BTW, Roy's are always right, just ask me:-)

I like our offense and don't think we're that far off, either, but just because it's good doesn't mean it can't get better, especially when every other team is gonna try to improve their offense in the draft. I like Maclin, but think he'll be gone by the time the 15th pick rolls around. Harvin is just as good with better experience having played a vital roll in two BCS championships. The thing I really like about him is he plays RB and can spell Slaton. Something we need. But he can also line up as WR and safety valve and even do some returns. He's just so versatile for one player. Players that talented come around once every so often. He's virtually a can't miss.

Our defense needs to be upgraded and given some quality depth at multiple positions, but drafting an OLB that is a project in the first round doesn't help us on improving on an 8-8 season while other teams get better. I know we need probably 2-3 linebackers, but drafting for that need in the first round will make us reach for a player that probably won't be ready for at least a year. That player would be going up against elite players in the pros and I don't know if he's ready for that yet. It's gonna be really hard to learn that position in the pros going up against the best RB, TE, and linemen there is. Just ask Duane Brown and the 11 sacks he surrendered last year. We don't need to reach for another first round project.

The good news is that this is a deep class for linebackers and corners and we should be able to find starters at both positions in the mid-rounds. Dante will always need a quality backup after his surgery, and you could easily make a case for Reeves as well. He didn't start turning his head to make a play on the ball until the end of the season.

I think building a good defense should start in the secondary. Once you have your deep targets covered, you should build up the D-line with some good run-stuffers and pass-rushers to pressure the offense. Then build a quality LB corp that is smart, aggressive, and with good instincts.

We're not far off and could make HUGE improvements through this draft.
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Old 03-21-2009, 07:25 PM
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Our defense needs to be upgraded and given some quality depth at multiple positions. I know we need probably 2-3 linebackers.

Dante will always need a quality backup after his surgery, and you could easily make a case for Reeves as well. He didn't start turning his head to make a play on the ball until the end of the season.

I think building a good defense should start in the secondary.

Then build a quality LB corp that is smart, aggressive, and with good instincts.

We're not far off and could make HUGE improvements through this draft.
How about this for a draft.

1. CB Vontae Davis Illinois
2. SS Chip Vaughn Wake Forest
3. RB Cedric Peerman Virginia
4. FS David Bruton Notre Dame
4. DE Kyle Moore USC
5. LB Scott McKillop Pittsburgh
6. LB Lee Robinson Alcorn State
7. DE Victor Butler Oregon St
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Old 03-22-2009, 03:15 PM
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How about this for a draft.

1. CB Vontae Davis Illinois
2. SS Chip Vaughn Wake Forest
3. RB Cedric Peerman Virginia
4. FS David Bruton Notre Dame
4. DE Kyle Moore USC
5. LB Scott McKillop Pittsburgh
6. LB Lee Robinson Alcorn State
7. DE Victor Butler Oregon St
Revision #27

1. LB Clay Matthews USC
2. OC Eric Wood Louisville
3. SS Chip Vaughn Wake Forest
4. FS David Bruton Notre Dame
4. DE Kyle Moore USC
5. LB Scott McKillop Pittsburgh
6. RB Ian Johnson Boise State
7. WR Demetrius Byrd LSU

FAs
RB Javarris Williams Tenn State 5' 9 1/2" 223 4.51
DE Victor Butler Oregon St 6' 2" 248 4.77
DT Myron Pryor Kentucky 6' 0 1/4" 319 5.08
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Old 03-22-2009, 03:59 PM
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Revision #27

1. LB Clay Matthews USC
2. OC Eric Wood Louisville
3. SS Chip Vaughn Wake Forest
4. FS David Bruton Notre Dame
4. DE Kyle Moore USC
5. LB Scott McKillop Pittsburgh
6. RB Ian Johnson Boise State
7. WR Demetrius Byrd LSU

FAs
RB Javarris Williams Tenn State 5' 9 1/2" 223 4.51
DE Victor Butler Oregon St 6' 2" 248 4.77
DT Myron Pryor Kentucky 6' 0 1/4" 319 5.08


Aren't you worried about Eric Wood's alligator arms, or do you believe arm lenght is less important in the interior line?
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Old 03-22-2009, 04:56 PM
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Aren't you worried about Eric Wood's alligator arms, or do you believe arm lenght is less important in the interior line?
How short are his arms?

Of course, an OT needs to have longer arms than an interior OG or OC, but I don't necessarily want a T-Rex playing OC either.
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Old 03-22-2009, 07:00 PM
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Roy, I agree to disagree, and no, I'm not a troll from another team. I'm from Houston, but now reside in Katy.

Anyway, I don't understand how you can say Matthews has better man on man skills than Freeman when he has three times more experience and usually maned the OLB. Lets look at their Soph. and Junior years(2006,2007), for example.

After this I'm finished talking about CM till draft day.

Freeman was already a second year starter in 2007, he was second team all big ten, had 109 TT, 9.5 TFL, and 5 PBU. He started 11 out of 13 games in 2006, had 71 TT, 2.5 TFL, 1 SKS, 2 INT, and 6 PBU, also had 15 TKL in the BCS game that year.

Matthews was a backup linebacker in 2007, he started 2 games, had 17 TT , 3 TFL, 1 PBU. He was also a special teams player and had 2 FF and 2 BLK to his credit. In 2006 he had 15 TT and 1.5 TFL.

I don't know where his cover skills are gonna come from or how he's gonna be better than Freemans without real game experience. Freeman covered receivers and TE's frequently in the Texas vs OSU game, and did it well, check out youtube. Granted they both had good senior years, but Freeman is the more experienced and polished OLB43 at this point, IMO.

Also, OSU's pro day was the 17th, and he ran a 4.51 and 4.52 forty, 4.08 short shuttle, and a 6.66 three cone, surpassing all of Matthews times, and also Aaron Curry.

On a side note, I was thinking our rush defense was pretty pathetic last year, so here's my new mock emphasizing better rush protection:

1)Peria Jerry DT Ole Miss
2)Marcus Freeman OLB OSU
3)Andre Brown RB N.C. St.
4)Jason Williams OLB W. Ill.
4)Stryker Sulak DE Mizzou
5)Courtney Greene FS Rutgers
6)Sammie Lee Hill DT Stillman
7)D.J. Clark CB Idaho St
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Old 03-22-2009, 07:26 PM
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Roy, I agree to disagree.


After this I'm finished talking about CM till draft day.


Also, OSU's pro day was the 17th, and he ran a 4.51 and 4.52 forty, 4.08 short shuttle, and a 6.66 three cone, surpassing all of Matthews times, and also Aaron Curry.
ok.

Me too.

This is why I only compare times at the Combine when everyone has had the same amount of time to prepare for the same conditions on the same turf.
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