QBs Patrick Ramsey, Dan Orlovsky to Visit

HPF Bob · #1 02-27-2009, 10:33 AM

More Denver connection. He's been Cutler's backup.

Keith · #2 02-27-2009, 10:56 AM

The John-a-chron is confirming the visit.

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The first unrestricted free agent to visit the Texans' offices is quarterback Patrick Ramsey. ...

In 2007, the Texans tried and failed to sign Ramsey, who chose Denver instead. He spent the last two years with the Broncos. He attempted only three passes last season and completed two. ...

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/6284444.html

Arky · #3 02-27-2009, 11:26 AM

"He attempted only three passes last season and completed two."

That'll work!

papabear · #4 02-27-2009, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Arky

"He attempted only three passes last season and completed two."

That'll work!

I prefer to read that as, "Ramsey showed how deadly accurate he can be with his 66% completion percentage last year" . at least while in this pre-draft season of unbridled optimism.

RunninRaven · #5 02-27-2009, 12:05 PM

Hopefully they don't pay him what they payed Sage who, if I recall correctly, had a pretty high base salary for someone that had been a backup QB. But ability-wise I'm fine with Ramsey as backup. I think he'll do reasonably as well as Sage did.

Nconroe · #6 02-27-2009, 01:14 PM

Sage was 6-4 , which is 3 of 5 games won, that isn't bad for a backup.

nero THE zero · #7 02-27-2009, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Nconroe

Sage was 6-4 , which is 3 of 5 games won, that isn't bad for a backup.

10/21/07: L vs. TEN (10-6)
10/28/07: L @ SD (11-5)
11/04/07: W @ OAK (4-12)
12/02/07: L @ TEN (10-6)
12/09/07: W vs. TB (9-7)
12/13/07: W vs. DEN (7-9)
12/23/07: L @ IND (13-3)
12/30/07: W vs. JAC (11-5)

10/05/08: L vs. IND (12-4)
11/02/08: L @ MIN (10-6)
11/09/08: L vs. BAL (11-5)
11/16/08: L @ IND (12-4)
11/23/08: W @ CLE (4-12)
12/01/08: W @ JAC (5-11)

A lot of people place a high value on Sage because of Matt's inability to stay on the field and the perception that Sage plays well when Matt goes down. But, that doesn't really seem to be the case. In games that Sage has played a significant role, the team went 6-8. They went 4-0 against teams with losing records and 2-8 against teams with winning records. That's also 2-8 against playoff teams.

I'm not a huge proponent of placing a W-L value on QBs, but I think this puts some serious perspective on Sage's actual value to the team versus his perceived value.

Arky · #8 02-27-2009, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by papabear

I prefer to read that as, "Ramsey showed how deadly accurate he can be with his 66% completion percentage last year" . at least while in this pre-draft season of unbridled optimism.

LOL. Ya, "a man so feared on the football field, he rarely saw action in 2008"....

dalemurphy · #9 02-27-2009, 08:10 PM

Ramsey has never gotten his due: in 2002, he was the 3rd QB taken in the first round but I would argue he's the best of them!

Here's an interesting question that may not have a right answer:

Of those three QBs, who went to the best coaching staff? and the best organization?

Nconroe · #10 02-27-2009, 10:13 PM

Tricky question about 2002, you had David Carr picked first by Texans, Joey Harrington picked third by Detroit and Patrick Ramsey picked 32 by Washington. I guess Ramsey was on the best of those three teams. none of those three QBs have become great so far, but all still around. I really havent seen Ramsey play that much so hard to comment on his skills right now.