At The Combine

[idymoe]

Anyone want to talk about Stephen Hodge S TCU 5'11 5/8 234 lbs. Ran a 4.49 forty. A tweener, TCU used him at safety and will. He blitzed a lot & had 8 sacks. Was a qb in high school. Big hitter, would be good on special teams. 6th or 7th round, maybe?

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by idymoe

Anyone want to talk about Stephen Hodge S TCU 5'11 5/8 234 lbs. Ran a 4.49 forty. A tweener, TCU used him at safety and will. He blitzed a lot & had 8 sacks. Was a qb in high school. Big hitter, would be good on special teams. 6th or 7th round, maybe?

I really like him at the college level. At best, he's Sam Mills - a short LB. He played around the LOS in college, so I'm not sure about him in pass coverage. He's great against the run, so maybe they consider him as a WILL. He'd definitely be a project.

[Keith]

A bit of levity - Rich Eisen running the 40, stay tuned for the shadow cam thingy at the end:

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80eea0dc

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Keith

A bit of levity - Rich Eisen running the 40, stay tuned for the shadow cam thingy at the end:

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80eea0dc

The Shadow cam with Raji is funny as hell.

[nunusguy]

Originally Posted by painekiller

The Shadow cam with Raji is funny as hell.

Raji beats Eisen by what, 6 yards in the 40 ? Very entertaining. The NFLNetwork crew is fun and informative all at once.
Here's my question: Can Eisen do play-by-play ? Why can't we come up with a twosome of Eisen & Mayoc (or threesome with Mayocs buddy Charles) to staff ESPNs MNF ? Anything to get rid of Kornheiser !

[papabear]

I wish they did this with some of the players. I heard some one say the other day they were dissapointed that this guy ran a 4.64, but he was hoping he would run a mid to high 4.5. So if the guy runs a 4.57 he's OK but not if he's .07 seconds slower? So a better lean at the tape means he can play in the NFL?

[Roy P]

Originally Posted by papabear

I wish they did this with some of the players. I heard some one say the other day they were dissapointed that this guy ran a 4.64, but he was hoping he would run a mid to high 4.5. So if the guy runs a 4.57 he's OK but not if he's .07 seconds slower? So a better lean at the tape means he can play in the NFL?

At some point you have to draw a line. For somebody it might be 4.8. Then somebody comes behind them and says, well this guy ran a 4.81 are you going to dismiss them for .01 seconds?

There is no real black/white thing going on here. When players start getting so deep in the gray, you just have to cut bait.

For example, if I'm looking for a MLB my target 40 time would be around 4.63. Any time better is gravy and any time worse I start having to come up with reasons to keep him on the board. If a guy runs 4.67, he better be a thumper that can tackle very well. If he goes 4.77, then he has to be able to defeat OL blocks and be able to stack and shed. At 4.8, he better have the instincts of a pyschic and know the playbook better than the other teams' Offensive Coordinator. If he runs a 4.81 - then I can't draft him to play MLB because there isn't enough other things that he will be able to do to overcome the lack of speed that my defense would require. So, it wasn't the .01 second difference really - it was .17 seconds slower than the 4.63 that I desire. I think you can see the difference in .17 seconds on the Simulcam.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by nunusguy

Raji beats Eisen by what, 6 yards in the 40 ? Very entertaining. The NFLNetwork crew is fun and informative all at once.
Here's my question: Can Eisen do play-by-play ? Why can't we come up with a twosome of Eisen & Mayoc (or threesome with Mayocs buddy Charles) to staff ESPNs MNF ? Anything to get rid of Kornheiser !

Mainly because ESPN is not going to use NFL Network guys.