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Old 02-14-2009, 07:49 PM
painekiller painekiller is offline
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This will sound like a crazy idea, and I have to admit it wasn't mine, but drafting Peria Jerry to play RDE might be a better option. Boylhart compares him to a young Bruce Smith, which might be a bit of hyperbole to say the least. I could see him as a cross between Tommie Harris and Charles Grant, which wouldn't be bad to have opposite of Mario Williams.
My initial thought was Jerry is only 6-3, would he be long enough? But then I looked at Weaver, he is also 6-3. Wing span will be an issue, especial at RDE, OLT all have long arms and a RDE needs to be able compete.

It is an interesting thought, BTW I think you would want to make Jerry the LDE, the one over the RT, and leave Mario as the RDE. Also then grabbing someone later like Lawrence Sidbury or even Phillip Hunt U of H to be the pass rushing guy. Mario moves to the LDE and Jerry would go to DT and the specialist would come in on passing downs. It is a thought.
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Old 02-14-2009, 10:59 PM
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BTW I think you would want to make Jerry the LDE, the one over the RT, and leave Mario as the RDE.
Sorry, that's what I meant. I'm always thinking from the QB postion. When I said RDE, I was referring to the DE opposite the RT, which as you point out is the LDE.

Anyway, I've often thought that Tommie Harris would do a lot more and wouldn't get injured as much if he were out on the edge. If he played at 280lbs, he'd be a beast.

I'm keeping this Jerry idea on the backburner for now. I want to see how he times at the Combine. Ideally, the numbers I'm looking for are 1.68 - 10 yard split, 4.32 - Short Shuttle, and 7.40 - Cone. For explosion I want to see at least a 34" Vertical and a 9' 6" Long Jump. If Peria can get into that range, then I would definitely contemplate drafting him to be my DE.

Also, I am not giving up on the idea of going after a trade or some kind of pick up in the FA market. Jeremy Thompson of Green Bay, Jeremy Mincey of Jacksonville, or Jovan Haye of Tampa Bay as possible targets.

As for this draft's late round pass rushing guy, I've got me eye on Eastern Illinois DE Pierre Walters.
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Old 02-15-2009, 12:42 AM
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I'm keeping this Jerry idea on the backburner for now. I want to see how he times at the Combine. Ideally, the numbers I'm looking for are 1.68 - 10 yard split, 4.32 - Short Shuttle, and 7.40 - Cone. For explosion I want to see at least a 34" Vertical and a 9' 6" Long Jump. If Peria can get into that range, then I would definitely contemplate drafting him to be my DE.
Dammit, I always thought I could have at least had a shot at the league given a chance. The vert and broad were almost exactly what I had coming out of college at 265-270 lbs back in the day. Never could get the top end speed to get a good 40 time though, which killed me (I think my best ever 40 time was a mid to high 4.8). Of course, playing at a D3 school it's not like I had strength and conditioning coaches who could nitpick my time down. Ah well.

As for Ayers, I have a philisophical problem with taking one of the "fast risers" that come on after the season. Measureables are all fine and dandy, but thinking like that is what gets you Mike Mamula at #7. I'd rather take a guy who measures out well but has a track record for production then take a guy who "has all the tools" but hasn't put it all together.
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Old 02-15-2009, 08:33 AM
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My initial thought was Jerry is only 6-3, would he be long enough? But then I looked at Weaver, he is also 6-3. Wing span will be an issue, especial at RDE, OLT all have long arms and a RDE needs to be able compete.

It is an interesting thought, BTW I think you would want to make Jerry the LDE, the one over the RT, and leave Mario as the RDE. Also then grabbing someone later like Lawrence Sidbury or even Phillip Hunt U of H to be the pass rushing guy. Mario moves to the LDE and Jerry would go to DT and the specialist would come in on passing downs. It is a thought.
This is interesting. I have been thinking lately about Okoye at DE. In fact I posted this on another MB the other day. Its really just a fantasy but I would love to see us try it.

A few simple steps could fix our D. Sounds crazy huh? Well here it is my crazy plan.

Sign Haynesworth as a FA.

In the first round draft BJ Raji. I know he probably wont be there at 15 thats ok I have a plan. If he is drafted before us offer that team our first plus Travis Johnson for Raji. If they arent interested in TJ throw in our 3rd which should be adeqaute.

Trade Travis Johnson if wasnt involved in trade up. Im not as down on him as most but he just doesnt fit so I take any pick 4th or better.

In the 2nd round draft the best speedy OLB available. Clay Matthews or Clint Sintim or Tyrone McKenzie. One of them should be available.
In the 3rd round Draft Jarron Gilbert San Jose St DE.
In the 4th round Draft WR Jarrett Dillard, 5-10, 185, Rice
In the 5th round draft James Casey Rice TE
In the 6th round draft Sammie Lee Hill Stillman DT34 DT43
In the 7th round draft Gartrell Johnson, RB, Colorado State

Depth Chart Defense

LDE Amobi Okoye DelJuan Robinson Tim Bulman
DT BJ Raji Frank Okam
NT Haynesworth Sammie Lee Hill
RDE Mario Williams Jarron Gilbert Jesse Nading
OLB Xavier Adibi Clay Matthews? Kevin Bentley Chaun Thompson
MLB DeMeco Ryans Kevin Bentley
LCB Jacques Reeves Fred Bennett David Pittman
RCB Dunta Robinson DeMarcus Faggins Matterral Richardson
SS Nick Ferguson Brandon Harrison Dominique Barber
FS Eugene Wilson Will Demps

Take the 3/4 NT's responsibilities and the philosophy of the position and apply it in a 4/3 with both DT's. Why not have 2 guys in the middle that can command double teams? This frees up both ends to go 1 on 1 witht Tackles. I believe Okoye could thrive here. This front gives us 4 players capable of getting to the QB allowing Demeco Ryans and 2 speedy OLB's to blitz with off the edge and run down plays, our D would be Texan tough.

I know CRAZY huh? Well Im not finished yet. Next year In the 1st round My Houston Texans draft Terrance "Mount" Cody DT Alabama. Now thats CRAZY!!
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