Who will be available at 15?

[NBT]

Originally Posted by jppaul

God, that sucks. I vote trade down.

But to what slot? And who would be available there? Not a bad idea though, depending on who was there at #15. This year because of the collecting bargaining agreement opt out, there are going to be a slew of juniors coming out.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by NBT

But to what slot? And who would be available there? Not a bad idea though, depending on who was there at #15. This year because of the collecting bargaining agreement opt out, there are going to be a slew of juniors coming out.

This is not true at all. Roger Goodell personally made calls to many top NCAA coaches to make personal assurances that there will be no rookie cap by 2010 so there is no reason for juniors to come out this year based on Salary or CBA concerns. He chalked the whole thing up to unscrupulous agents trying to entice kids into coming out early.

[Maninthebox]

If an elite pass rusher worthy of the pick (maybe E. Brown?) is there, I think you go that route. I really wanted Mays here, but oh well. He probably would have been gone anyway. If W. Moore is the real deal at safety, I would give him a long look because I think pass rush specialists will be available in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. It's great for us that so many sophomore and junior ends are coming out. I'm also wondering if we'll look at DT at any point. Not overwhelmed by TJ, Okam and D. Robinson, although Robinson looked very good in stretches, especially for an UFA.

PS If RB Shonn Greene falls to us in the 3rd, I think we HAVE to take him.

[NBT]

Barret, we will just have to see how many juniors come out, I guess.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by NBT

Barret, we will just have to see how many juniors come out, I guess.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3795154

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell says fears of a looming rookie wage scale are unfounded and collegiate underclassmen should not be misled into thinking such a system will be in place by 2010 as they weigh their decisions to forgo their eligibility to enter the NFL next year.

"There will be no change in our current [rookie pool] system, at least until 2011," Goodell told ESPN on Saturday. "I've explained that to some college head coaches, athletic directors and league commissioners. Any underclassman who is hearing differently is probably hearing it from an agent or from another source who is misinformed."

Goodell met with approximately six commissioners from major conferences during the recent National Football Foundation meetings.

Roger Goodell acknowledges a modification to rookie wages in the NFL is likely, but not before 2011. Goodell also has personally delivered his message to college coaches such as Florida's Urban Meyer and USC's Pete Carroll, both of whom have junior quarterbacks in Tim Tebow and Mark Sanchez who are contemplating turning pro for the 2009 draft.

Two other highly touted underclassman quarterbacks, Georgia junior Matthew Stafford and Oklahoma redshirt sophomore/Heisman Trophy winner Sam Bradford, also are considering a move to the NFL.

"We talked about it, cleared the air and it was good to hear it straight from the commissioner," Carroll said Saturday. "That's a huge statement now that he's on the record. Obviously, I'm in total support of it and hopefully now a lot of good college kids getting bad information will be able to read it, see it, and trust it."

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by Maninthebox

PS If RB Shonn Greene falls to us in the 3rd, I think we HAVE to take him.

You do realize how old he is? He will be 25 years old before he takes a snap in the NFL. Teams tend to drop players due to the shorter window he has to be a big time player.

Also remember he is a man playing with boys right now, he will be older than Mario on opening day, that makes me rethink his draft status.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by painekiller

You do realize how old he is? He will be 25 years old before he takes a snap in the NFL. Teams tend to drop players due to the shorter window he has to be a big time player.

Also remember he is a man playing with boys right now, he will be older than Mario on opening day, that makes me rethink his draft status.

This is true but is balanced out in some ways by the fact that he only has a Willie Parkeresque 69 total carries in his first 3 years of college before the big breakout this past year. This lack of wear and tear will not totally offset the age, but it will help.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by barrett

This is true but is balanced out in some ways by the fact that he only has a Willie Parkeresque 69 total carries in his first 3 years of college before the big breakout this past year. This lack of wear and tear will not totally offset the age, but it will help.

IMO a player with such a small window needs to be 4th round or latter. Also he has only one good year since HS, so a 4th round pick again.

But these are my opinions.