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Old 01-07-2009, 03:01 PM
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To further my point, this article indicates that the Bears may be close to signing Marinelli as their defensive line coach -

http://www.freep.com/article/2009010...46/1048/sports

Now, Lovie Smith and Marinelli are friends and maybe the Texans would not have had a shot, but Marinelli is considered one of the best D line coaches in the business. Do you really think it is to the Texans' advantage to have their head coach on vacation, then come back and compile a list of candidates (which presumably will take some time as well), and then start the interview process? All the while, teams like the Bears are on the move and wooing potential candidates like Marinelli? How is it good for the Texans if Marinelli is hired by another team before Kubiak even sits down to decide whether he is a good fit?
In all likelyhood they have no interest in running a Tampa 2 system.... If that is the case, why would you even consider a coach that would bring in and instill that type of defense.
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Old 01-07-2009, 03:11 PM
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In all likelyhood they have no interest in running a Tampa 2 system.... If that is the case, why would you even consider a coach that would bring in and instill that type of defense.
Because he is being hired as the D line coach, not the D coordinator so he wouldn't be the one deciding what defense to run. Since he is considered by many to be the best D line coach in football and we have 2 underperforming 1st rounders on our D line, tell me why we shouldn't at least be considering him for our vacancy at D line coach.

And maybe I'm going about it wrong by bringing up specific candidates. Forget Marinelli (or Gray or Williams) or any other specific candidate. I want someone to tell me why it is beneficial for the Texans to have their coach taking a week off while other teams are interviewing candidates before he even sits down to determine who his candidates are. It's that simple. If you can't tell me why it's good, rather than why it may not ultimately hurt us, I just don't think that's good enough.
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Old 01-07-2009, 03:25 PM
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Because he is being hired as the D line coach, not the D coordinator so he wouldn't be the one deciding what defense to run. Since he is considered by many to be the best D line coach in football and we have 2 underperforming 1st rounders on our D line, tell me why we shouldn't at least be considering him for our vacancy at D line coach.
I thought you were referring to bringing him in as a defensive cooridinator. In any case... who knows why they didn't bring him in for an interview. Maybe they didn't want the stench of an 0-16 coach on this staff.
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Old 01-07-2009, 03:38 PM
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I thought you were referring to bringing him in as a defensive cooridinator. In any case... who knows why they didn't bring him in for an interview. Maybe they didn't want the stench of an 0-16 coach on this staff.
Not trying to pick on you, Gunn, but, if Painekiller's info. is correct, we know why we didn't bring him in yet. Because Kubiak took a vacation and is just now deciding on who he wants to interview. In short, Marinelli may be off the market before Kubes even decided if he should interview him. As for the "stench" comment, nothing but speculation and if it were true, would be an indictment of this coaching staff. Also, anyone can make up a speculative reason for why any 1 particular candidate hasn't been interviewed and it gets us nowhere. I go back to my original question - Tell me why it is to the Texans' advantage to have their head coach take a week off before even beginning the process of deciding who to interview when other teams are moving on candidates.

This is probably being blown out of proportion, but the bottom line is that 2 of the generally considered best available defensive coaches (Marinelli and Nolan) are probably going to be off the market before the Texans decide who they want to interview. I don't see how any of you can think this is a good thing.
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Old 01-07-2009, 03:49 PM
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Joshua - valid question, but something else to consider... it would be in Nolan's and Marinelli's best interests (or anyone else's that might consider working for Kubiak) to at least call the Texans before accepting an offer from another team. If nothing else, the Texans could be used as leverage for those guys to negotiate a better salary.

And along the lines of what papabear said, unless someone tips off Mark Berman to head to the baggage claim at IAH, there is no telling what's happening 'behind the scenes' since we seem to have an otherwise passive sports news media in Houston. Also, if Gray or anyone else was interested in coming here, I imagine like a lot of job seekers his resume would already be on Kubiak's desk, vacation or not.
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Old 01-07-2009, 04:00 PM
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Joshua - valid question, but something else to consider... it would be in Nolan's and Marinelli's best interests (or anyone else's that might consider working for Kubiak) to at least call the Texans before accepting an offer from another team. If nothing else, the Texans could be used as leverage for those guys to negotiate a better salary.

And along the lines of what papabear said, unless someone tips off Mark Berman to head to the baggage claim at IAH, there is no telling what's happening 'behind the scenes' since we seem to have an otherwise passive sports news media in Houston. Also, if Gray or anyone else was interested in coming here, I imagine like a lot of job seekers his resume would already be on Kubiak's desk, vacation or not.
Good points and I'm not actually as fired up about this as I'm coming across in my postings. However, I do think it's weird that we haven't heard a single name trickle out (other than Bush), much less confirmation of any contact/permission to talk to/interviews with any candidates. Add to this the fact that Kubes said he would take a week off and then decide who to interview and I'm not thrilled with what I'm hearing about our D coordinator search.

Maybe it's just the pessimist in me that the Texans have turned me into, but this isn't the first time that the Texans have moved in ways that made me scratch my head. The first couple times I thought, "They're professionals, I'm sure there's some reason for it that I just don't know or understand." Come to find out, there wasn't and their moves were, in fact, just as baffling as I originally suspected. Thus, when they behave in ways that make no sense to me, I'm less inclined now to wholesale speculate just to try and craft some answer which gives them the benefit of the doubt.
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Old 01-07-2009, 04:05 PM
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I'm not saying that your not right Joshua, only that all we're getting is one sound bite of Kubiak saying that he's going to take the week off....there's plenty of people who's idea of a week off is not being in the office for normal hours, and spending the whole time on the phone or computer calling/emailing about work. I am most definitely not one of those people, but Kubiak could be...and since he's an NFL coache he probably is.
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Old 01-07-2009, 04:19 PM
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I'm not saying that your not right Joshua, only that all we're getting is one sound bite of Kubiak saying that he's going to take the week off....there's plenty of people who's idea of a week off is not being in the office for normal hours, and spending the whole time on the phone or computer calling/emailing about work. I am most definitely not one of those people, but Kubiak could be...and since he's an NFL coache he probably is.
I suspect you're right. I guess my complaint can be boiled down to this. I haven't seen any concrete information of anything the Texans are doing to fill the D coordinator position. I was hoping the team would take an aggressive and proactive approach to filling the position, as well as pursuing a number of candidates and getting outside Kube's comfort zone of guys he's previously worked with to ensure the best fit. I have seen nothing to indicate they are doing this and what little info. I've found suggests they are not. This is disappointing to me.
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