We still Suck: last week was a mirage

[Big Texas]

our record indicates that we are an average team. But I would go a step further in saying that we are an underacheiving team. How else do account for beating potentially the best team in the NFL and losing to one of the worst teams the next week all factors constant. No key injuries to either team. The only factor that seems to differ here would be the rainy weather. (and it wasnt all that rainy or muddy)

[gunn]

Originally Posted by Big Texas

our record indicates that we are an average team. But I would go a step further in saying that we are an underacheiving team. How else do account for beating potentially the best team in the NFL and losing to one of the worst teams the next week all factors constant. No key injuries to either team. The only factor that seems to differ here would be the rainy weather. (and it wasnt all that rainy or muddy)

Because they're physically worn out from the Tennessee game. This is a finesse team that is just not built to stand up with the physical teams in the league in my opinion. They're just beat up and on top have to travel to the west coast and play in cold, wet conditions. Soft teams loose those games.

They need to get physical up front on the interior offensively and also at every level of the defense.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by gunn

Because they're physically worn out from the Tennessee game. This is a finesse team that is just not built to stand up with the physical teams in the league in my opinion. They're just beat up and on top have to travel to the west coast and play in cold, wet conditions. Soft teams loose those games.

They need to get physical up front on the interior offensively and also at every level of the defense.

They are soft and not built to play physical games like the Raiders but they are physical enough to beat the Titans??? That makes sense.

More likely they just went out and played an awful game. Every facet. They laid an egg. Bad coaching, bad offense, bad defense, terrible special teams. Flat across the board.

We've played harder and cared more than our opponents for the last month and today the opposite was true. A poor and inexcusable effort, but it has nothing to do with being "tired" from last week's game.

[TheMatrix31]

It's ok. If consistency is all we have to worry about, then that's a good thing. It's easier to work out the kinks once everything is laid out. Right now, we're there, we just have to work on it. A couple years ago, we weren't even close.

[gunn]

Originally Posted by barrett

They are soft and not built to play physical games like the Raiders but they are physical enough to beat the Titans??? That makes sense.

More likely they just went out and played an awful game. Every facet. They laid an egg. Bad coaching, bad offense, bad defense, terrible special teams. Flat across the board.

We've played harder and cared more than our opponents for the last month and today the opposite was true. A poor and inexcusable effort, but it has nothing to do with being "tired" from last week's game.

Hmm...

I think you missed the point. So you are telling me that playing a tough, physical contest against a team such as Tennessee has no impact on the players and the way the team plays the following week?

[barrett]

Originally Posted by gunn

Hmm...

I think you missed the point. So you are telling me that playing a tough, physical contest against a team such as Tennessee has no impact on the players and the way the team plays the following week?

I'm telling you that whatever impact it has is no indication of a soft team.

Soft/tough comes into play when beating Tennessee. Not in some idea of recovery time. If anything you are talking about mental toughness which is not what you started out talking about with interior line and each level of the defense.
Either way the Texans are plenty tough physically and mentally. Just not very consistent.

[gunn]

Originally Posted by barrett

I'm telling you that whatever impact it has is no indication of a soft team.

Soft/tough comes into play when beating Tennessee. Not in some idea of recovery time. If anything you are talking about mental toughness which is not what you started out talking about with interior line and each level of the defense.
Either way the Texans are plenty tough physically and mentally. Just not very consistent.

They are certainly not a team that anyone would confuse with a physical team. Outside of a handful of individual players there's not one unit of this team that would be considered physical as a whole. Physical teams control the los and it's clear that the Texans lack this, and it's highlighted in the redzone both offensively and defensively.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by gunn

They are certainly not a team that anyone would confuse with a physical team. Outside of a handful of individual players there's not one unit of this team that would be considered physical as a whole. Physical teams control the los and it's clear that the Texans lack this, and it's highlighted in the redzone both offensively and defensively.

and yet they did exactly that for the last month. Even against teams like Jacksonville and Tennessee who are confused with physical teams.

A bad game this week doesn't erase the four good ones. Just like the four good ones don't erase the bad start. you can't take a loss to the Raiders and declare them soft.

The Texans have been just fine physically up front this year. They've run the ball fine and held up against the run more often than not.

[nero THE zero]

Originally Posted by gunn

Because they're physically worn out from the Tennessee game. This is a finesse team that is just not built to stand up with the physical teams in the league in my opinion. They're just beat up and on top have to travel to the west coast and play in cold, wet conditions. Soft teams loose those games.

They need to get physical up front on the interior offensively and also at every level of the defense.

Yep. Not to mention the fact that our BYE week was way back in week 2. We were just tired, didn't get up for this game, and flat out got beat in all three phases of the game.

[Bigtinylittle]

I am completely with Barrett on this one. We are an average team right now. Oakland is a below average team. If the Tennessee Titans can lose to an average team on the road (Texans) then the Texans can lose to a below averave team (Raiders) without it meaning the Texans are a terrible team.

Some things I saw yesterday:

1. The Raiders were getting more pressure on the QB than we were. I take that to mean they wanted the game more than we did.
2. Asomuga or whatever his name is, probably is the best DB I have seen in a long time. I love that guy.
3.Slater ran tough all day. That impressed me.
4.I'm not going to complain if we draft a RB with our first or second pick.