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Old 12-18-2008, 11:08 PM
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No offense Mussop but I would be calling for DNA tests to see if Casserly and Rick SMith was related if that was our draft.

I personally think we will be at 18 but playing by the rules:

#15 - DE Michael Johnson DE Georgia Tech - rangy pass rusher with great speed and a freeney like first step. I think to in order for Williams to be utilized as much as possible.

#47 - S William Moore - Great safety had kind of a down year, and is a key piece of the puzzle.

#79 - RB James Davis - Clemson: The ying to slaton's yang. More of a pound it in back with great production but a little overshadowed by Spiller. Crisp first cut.

#111 - WR Pat White: Could be a randle el type and they would run a mean wild cat. A bit of a luxury pick but I think it could pay big dividends.

#143 - QB Rhett Bomar: Good athleticism a world of talent and we need someone to replace Sage next year.
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Old 12-19-2008, 02:54 AM
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No offense Mussop but I would be calling for DNA tests to see if Casserly and Rick SMith was related if that was our draft.

I personally think we will be at 18 but playing by the rules:

#15 - DE Michael Johnson DE Georgia Tech - rangy pass rusher with great speed and a freeney like first step. I think to in order for Williams to be utilized as much as possible.

#47 - S William Moore - Great safety had kind of a down year, and is a key piece of the puzzle.

#79 - RB James Davis - Clemson: The ying to slaton's yang. More of a pound it in back with great production but a little overshadowed by Spiller. Crisp first cut.

#111 - WR Pat White: Could be a randle el type and they would run a mean wild cat. A bit of a luxury pick but I think it could pay big dividends.

#143 - QB Rhett Bomar: Good athleticism a world of talent and we need someone to replace Sage next year.
None taken Like I said i went throught he list and took best player available regardless of position and thats what I came up with. I was surprised to have OL early but they were BPA IMO. Alex Mack is probably the safest pick in this entire draft. Hes nearly a unanamous future pro bowler by all the scouts. He has little or no weeknesses. You cant say that about any other player that will be available to us that late in the first. Maybe Duke Robinson???? Another OL!

I like MJ alot. In fact when I have watched him he has impressed me. However he has a reputation of not being motivated and not playing with enough passion. He had to do something to get that rep. I dont know if I want to risk such a valuable pick on a player with that ?mark. Of course if IIRC they said the same thing about Mario!

Actually I would be happy with either one but their is a bigger gamble taking MJ. Myself I would go witht the surer pick Mack. The rest of youre draft would make me very happy.
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Old 12-19-2008, 03:18 AM
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My first question is who is this guy making the list? Rey Rey is #4? I don't think the NFL is going to see him that way. The kid is good, but he guesses and takes himself out of to many play, he show little instinct. He has highlight hits, and many would be fined in the the NFL, he is a head hunter. Mid round pick at best, IMO.

2nd Mussop, you are going to pass on 19 higher rank players without a trade down? This is a huge reach, it would be far better to trade back in grab Mack later, if you think he is the one.

Next there is no way 3 rookie OL man make the team in any given year, especially not with this staff. So why waste a pick?
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Old 12-20-2008, 01:46 AM
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2nd Mussop, you are going to pass on 19 higher rank players without a trade down? This is a huge reach, it would be far better to trade back in grab Mack later, if you think he is the one.
None of the 19 players I passed were higher rated IMO.

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Next there is no way 3 rookie OL man make the team in any given year, especially not with this staff. So why waste a pick?
Like I said i went throught the list and took best player available (IMO) regardless of position and thats what I came up with. I just wanted to see what I came up with doing it that way.
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Old 12-20-2008, 02:15 AM
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None of the 19 players I passed were higher rated IMO.
Higher rated by you. If that is your rating then OK. I like BJ Raji the best right now, but the scout who put this list together obviously does not.
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Old 12-20-2008, 01:30 PM
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I agree that this list is just a teaser, but as PK has said, I had to get my fix. The Draft is a long way off yet, but it is fun to look and speculate. And of course everyone is entitled to their opinion.

I agree on Rey Rey. And besides what PK said, he is more a 3-4 kind of guy.

18 to 23 looks about where we will end up on draft day.
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Old 12-20-2008, 11:06 PM
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Higher rated by you. If that is your rating then OK. I like BJ Raji the best right now, but the scout who put this list together obviously does not.
Lots of opinions/ratings will change between now and the end of the combine. Especially mine. I have been a big Raji fan myself. In fact he was higher on my board than Mack until recently. The more I thought about it the more it made sense to go Mack instead of Raji IMO.

Mack would be an instant starter and and be the anchor of our OL for the next decade.

Keeping Scaub upright and healthy is of the upmost importance. We all know what happens when Schaub gets hit too much.

Having a bigger stronger center would improve our short yardage ability. A better running game means the defense stays off the field.

Better protection means less turnovers. If we can cut down on our turnovers our offense would be deadly.

Injuries happen so adding depth to our OL is crucial. Think about it, is there anyone you are confident in if Myers or Brown goes down for any extended period of time? Not me! White, Salaam!!! BARF!!!!! It would mean not only the season is over but now Schaub is going to be exposed to more contact risking more injuries.

Our offense is OL depth and maybe one more productive RB away from being elite. Okoye is just scratching the suface of his potential and should only get better. Robinson has come on strong and I havent given up on Okam yet. Every year you see talented DT's moving around via FA or trades. Very seldom do young DT's come in and make an impact.
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