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Old 12-07-2008, 04:52 PM
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Our OL has come a long way, but I would agree that we need to be stronger in the middle. We have collected some good skill players though. That is exciting.
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Old 12-07-2008, 05:00 PM
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I think our O-Line has improved alot from game #1. I think the Gibbs cut zone scheme is taking hold. Briesel for an undrafted guy gets better each week, and he really seems to be making blocks on the second level. I think the majority of big runs are behind him and Winston.
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Old 12-07-2008, 05:48 PM
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One of the biggest problems of going to an Alex Gibb OL is that smaller quicker guys who are good with his run game are too small for the pass game and straight ahead run game.

that is the trade off you get.

BTW Denver has stated they are not going to be running this same system next year I believe.
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Old 12-07-2008, 07:51 PM
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I think our O-Line has improved alot from game #1. I think the Gibbs cut zone scheme is taking hold. Briesel for an undrafted guy gets better each week, and he really seems to be making blocks on the second level. I think the majority of big runs are behind him and Winston.
Briziel was one of the specific ones I was referring to. On one play in the GB game, Braziel starts to get into the passblocking stance, but the defensive tackle gave him such a two hand jolt it knocked him partway back into Schaub. If you are an Olineman you have to be strong enough on top to absorb blows like that and maintain balance.
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Old 12-07-2008, 09:38 PM
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Its about being physical up front on both offense and defense. Thats my issue with this team and the way they appear to be constructing it... they're not big or physical on the offensive line nor are they at any level of the defense.

The two most physical players on this team are Andre Johnson and Mario Williams and to me, their physical nature has a noteworthy impact in each game.

If you lack the ability to dominate up front your team is going to struggle scoring and preventing touchdowns in the redzone and just controlling the tempo of the games in general.
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Old 12-08-2008, 02:27 PM
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The Texans were 549 yds good in 3 degree weather yesterday. If they could only stop the sensless turnovers, they would be contending for the division (or at least would have).
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Old 12-08-2008, 02:34 PM
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Turnovers have at a minimum cost us two wins. Win those two and we are seriously in the hunt. Now we need a ten miracles type of finish to the season to have any chance (not gona happen). The offense seems to be pretty darn good and even outstanding at times, but the turnovers kill us every time. Add that to a defense that has had problems holding folks to less than 30 points and it is a recipe for a bad season.
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Old 12-08-2008, 04:24 PM
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The Texans were 549 yds good in 3 degree weather yesterday. If they could only stop the sensless turnovers, they would be contending for the division (or at least would have).
Agreed. It was the most yards given up by GB at home since the 1980s. Our offense is plenty good if it does not give the ball away.
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Old 12-09-2008, 01:00 PM
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Agreed. It was the most yards given up by GB at home since the 1980s. Our offense is plenty good if it does not give the ball away.
I agree that on Sunday our offense was good enough if you take away the turnovers. My only point was that before Sunday, we struggled mightily in both short yardage (only my opinion, no stats to back it up) and long yardage (0 for 29 on 3rd and 9 or longer) situations.

I guess the point I was trying to make was that I found it odd that we were a top 5 offense, but both our short yardage and long yardage success is not only not top 5, but arguably one of the worst in the league. While I haven't looked it up, I doubt any other team in the league had failed to convert a single 3rd and long through week 14. I also doubt few teams have struggled as much as the Texans in short yardage situations (I'm thinking of the several 3rd and 1s, 4th and 1s, and goalline stances where we have gotten stoned). I mean, I think we're well below average in both of these categories, which is peculiar for an offense that has put up the numbers we have.
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Old 12-08-2008, 05:37 PM
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The Texans were 549 yds good in 3 degree weather yesterday. If they could only stop the sensless turnovers, they would be contending for the division (or at least would have).
I agree with this entirely. I'm so shocked at how well they did in total yardage that I refuse to offer any critcism until the season is over. I wonder how if Jacoby has the special teams coaches eye?

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Old 12-09-2008, 11:58 AM
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Jacoby is just.......well, Jacoby. He has two punts returned for TDs, then he up and pulls a high school Harry stunt like letting the ball play him, and having to jump for it to make up for not following it properly. He ends up flubbing it, and incurring the wrath of Kubiak.
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