New GM and HC search [Nick Caserio Hired as GM] [David Culley Hired as HC]

[barrett]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

I'm not sure what there is about the Lions or the Bengals that would make any NFL executive say "I wish we were like those guys".

I'd support Kevin Sumlin for head coach. He had success at UH, minor success at Texas A&M, coached a Heisman winner and runs a very wide-open offense with running QBs. We'd have to find a defensive coach to run the defense because he seems to be to be an offense-only coach but the same was true with Kubiak.

First make a play for Dabo and find out what his price is to try the pros then fall back on Sumlin. That works for me.

Nothing like hiring a guy who just finished up his winless season at Arizona with a 70-7 loss to rival ASU for ASU's only win of the season. Sumlin will be lucky to find a college coordinator job, so I guess that makes him about as qualified to coach the Texans as a team chaplain is to run them.

[HPF Bob]

I was already aware of this but the guy didn't suddenly forget how to coach. Sounds like some sort of divorce. Sumlin obviously lost control of the team. That happens.

He strikes me as someone who would be a better professional coach than a college one. Just a hunch. And he doesn't need to start at the top. Make him a O-coordinator for an NFL team and see how he does.

[Keith]

Originally Posted by painekiller

I thought they were going to let the the new GM pick the HC, shouldn't he be here for the interview process? This has the look of the team getting the Rooney rule out of the way.

Agreed. Let's get a GM and HC on the same page from the jump. Rooney rule was my initial thought too, but I suppose it isn't a poor idea for the Texans to go through a "practice" round of interviewing themselves. Maybe help them query and parse the actual candidates when they interview them?

Originally Posted by Warren

I wouldn't want Marvin Lewis but I think he is a competent NFL head coach. He never did anything in the playoffs but deserves some credit for getting more out of the notoriously cheap Bengals franchise than anybody else has in a long time.

My initial reaction too was to be repulsed by the thought of Lewis. And I'm not trying to convince anyone otherwise here, least of all me, but Lewis had a winning record as HC of the Bengals at 131-122-3. That's like 16 years, and the last 3 had win totals of just 6, 7, and 6. He produced winning teams with such a woeful franchise and ownership. Was also the DC for that stout Ravens defense that won SB XXXV and set a record for fewest points allowed.

Now for the bad - his teams went 0-7 in the playoffs, all wild card games. Six wild card losses over a seven year span actually. Feels very Oiler-esque from their late 80s-early 90s run, but unlike a few of those Oilers squads, how many of those losses did Lewis clearly have the better talent on the field? He entered as the home team with a division championship a few times, but I'm not sure he lost with clearly better talent. His QB for most of those seasons was Andy Dalton, not a HoF guy like Warren Moon.

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

I'm not sure what there is about the Lions or the Bengals that would make any NFL executive say "I wish we were like those guys".

I probably said the same thing about Bill Belichick after his stint with the Browns though.

[HPF Bob]

I probably said the same thing about Bill Belichick after his stint with the Browns though.

I knew this would come up. Belichick was a highly successful DC under Parcells and he had to learn how to coach without Tuna behind him. There are few top head coaches who were big winners with their first head coaching gigs. Most of them (cough, Kubiak) reached their peak with a second team.

But you can't overcome a lack of talent although Bum certainly tried.

[barrett]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

I was already aware of this but the guy didn't suddenly forget how to coach. Sounds like some sort of divorce. Sumlin obviously lost control of the team. That happens.

He strikes me as someone who would be a better professional coach than a college one. Just a hunch. And he doesn't need to start at the top. Make him a O-coordinator for an NFL team and see how he does.

He'd be much worse as an NFL coach. He is a fantastic recruiter who then mostly gets the least out of his guys. And it's not like he was great as a coach and then had an off year. He's been on a constant downward spiral since the Manziel days. Manziel won the Heisman and the team went 11-2 in Sumlin's first year at A&M. Since then he's gone...

9-4
8-5
8-5
8-5
7-5
5-7
4-8
0-5

And that includes 12 straight losses currently to complete a pretty easy to spot trend. I legitimately can't think of a worse candidate. But I guess Kliff Kingsburry failed up into the Cardinals job so it's possible Sumlin could fail upwards too.

I'd much prefer an NFL guy like Beinemy or Saleh.

[HPF Bob]

Why hasn't anyone hired Bieniemy as head coach yet?

Well it might be incidents like this:

https://www.cincyjungle.com/2019/1/6...joseph-broncos

Granted, nothing has been added to the list in over a decade but we all know the passage of time doesn't matter to certain activist groups.

[painekiller]

Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Why hasn't anyone hired Bieniemy as head coach yet?

Well it might be incidents like this:

https://www.cincyjungle.com/2019/1/6...joseph-broncos

Granted, nothing has been added to the list in over a decade but we all know the passage of time doesn't matter to certain activist groups.

Or could it be he is not the guy that is calling the plays?

[painekiller]

Texans appear to be going backwards:

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/tex...M-15844228.php


And a HC request:

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/tex...t-15844366.php



If McNair stays with Easterby, then I'm done.

[Arky]

Originally Posted by painekiller

Texans appear to be going backwards:

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/tex...M-15844228.php


And a HC request:

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/tex...t-15844366.php



If McNair stays with Easterby, then I'm done.

I could live with Caserio. He's supposed to be a really sharp guy contrary to some of the other Patriot imports...