Bill O'Brien Fired

barrett · #1 10-05-2020, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith

Just signed meaningful extensions to Watson and Tunsil. I'm not sure a full rebuild is what I'd be looking for with the two biggest cornerstones entering their prime.

I don't think it matters what the team is looking for. We are terrible with no reasonable way to get better. We have no draft capital and no money. We are anchored with bad contracts. Deshaun deserves better, but that means nothing if you can't take any steps to help him. Not to mention a full regime change is going to mean turnover, tons of dead money, and no guarantee that what young talent we have matches with the new system going forward.

This is a completely broken team today with Watson and Tunsil. Nothing we do in the next 12 months is changing that.

bikerack · #2 10-05-2020, 05:01 PM

My friend still has his job for now and he thinks he is on solid footing.

He says you can thanks Mrs. McNair, Watt and Watson for this.

As is coming out elsewhere, BOB lost the locker room for good a couple of weeks ago.

Revenue also tanking as a ton of season ticket holders were walking away.

bikerack · #3 10-05-2020, 05:17 PM

more...

BOB got into some heated verbal arguments over the last couple of weeks. One was with Easterby and another was with someone on my friend's group. The wrong people (for BOB) witnessed them...

Arky · #4 10-05-2020, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bikerack

My friend still has his job for now and he thinks he is on solid footing.

He says you can thanks Mrs. McNair, Watt and Watson for this.

As is coming out elsewhere, BOB lost the locker room for good a couple of weeks ago.

Revenue also tanking as a ton of season ticket holders were walking away.

Good info....

Don't think I've ever seen Watt so bummed as at the press conference yesterday. And good on Watson for being diplomatic and just rolling with the flow....

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There talk of Eric Bienemy..... I dunno... maybe as the new OC? As I mentioned, not crazy about first-timers....

nunusguy · #5 10-06-2020, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Arky

Good info....

Don't think I've ever seen Watt so bummed as at the press conference yesterday. And good on Watson for being diplomatic and just rolling with the flow....

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There talk of Eric Bienemy..... I dunno... maybe as the new OC? As I mentioned, not crazy about first-timers....

Why would Bienemy leave the OC position in KC to take the same job with a winless team, but as the new Texans HC I'd think he'd make that move ?

Arky · #6 10-06-2020, 01:23 PM

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Why would Bienemy leave the OC position in KC to take the same job with a winless team, but as the new Texans HC I'd think he'd make that move ?

OC/AHC more $$$$

barrett · #7 10-06-2020, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Arky

OC/AHC more $$$$

Bienemy cares most about being a head coach. Getting a fake promotion or a slight pay bump isn't going to help make that happen. Unless we can offer him a head coaching job he'll stay in KC where he get his name on the NFL's best offense throughout the playoffs. Then he'll take a head coaching job next year with an actual promotion and a much bigger pay raise.

bikerack · #8 10-06-2020, 02:29 PM

FYI - apparently there are issues out there that make hiring Bienemy as a HC a little more delicate. I don't even know what they are exactly, but I was told that there is a reason he isn't a HC yet.

Arky · #9 10-06-2020, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by barrett

Bienemy cares most about being a head coach. Getting a fake promotion or a slight pay bump isn't going to help make that happen. Unless we can offer him a head coaching job he'll stay in KC where he get his name on the NFL's best offense throughout the playoffs. Then he'll take a head coaching job next year with an actual promotion and a much bigger pay raise.

I really don't care. Everyone else is talking about him. He's not my cup of tea. Just a suggestion on how they could maybe get him onboard....

I'd rather have experience. Texans are in very good shape to have pick of the litter at the end of the year...

chuck · #10 10-05-2020, 05:39 PM

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Revenue also tanking as a ton of season ticket holders were walking away.

I think this is the data point we have been searching for.

HPF Bob · #11 10-05-2020, 05:52 PM

Unless the Texans think they have somebody on the inside, I really question the timing of this. They still have 12 more games to go. If they fill it with an interim coach, I don't see much chance for improvement. If they fill it with someone from outside the organization, how good could he be if 31 other teams didn't have a job for him?

I think you have to fill it with a veteran head coach who is already in semi-retirement and is talked into coming in just to finish out his own legacy but not as a permanent solution, only a temporary fit. Someone like Dusty Baker.

Someone like Marvin Lewis.

Keith · #12 10-05-2020, 05:55 PM

Romeo Crennel named as the interim head coach. Tim Kelly reinstated as the offensive play caller.

I don't think this is a lightning rod-type change, but players ought to have greater respect for RAC at least.

Warren · #13 10-05-2020, 06:10 PM

Easterby apparently will survive (and may have had a hand in BOB's ouster) which seems really stranger given his involvement with GM BOB's questionable moves.

bikerack · #14 10-05-2020, 06:43 PM

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Easterby apparently will survive (and may have had a hand in BOB's ouster) which seems really stranger given his involvement with GM BOB's questionable moves.

See my post above. BOB and Easterby got into it in the past couple of weeks.

Also, reading between the lines with what my friend has told me....I think BOB's son being immunocompromised during COVID (with all the false positives and everything else going on in the league) had something to do with some of his outbursts. His stress level was definitely up.

BOB did seek out my friend before he left the building and thanked him for a couple of things...

I'm not sorry to see him go but I wish him and his family well.

Edit to add - BOB has some $$$ coming to him due to the extension he signed a year or so ago, so don't be surprised to see him take another year off after this one.

barrett · #15 10-05-2020, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by HPF Bob

Unless the Texans think they have somebody on the inside, I really question the timing of this. They still have 12 more games to go. If they fill it with an interim coach, I don't see much chance for improvement. If they fill it with someone from outside the organization, how good could he be if 31 other teams didn't have a job for him?

I think you have to fill it with a veteran head coach who is already in semi-retirement and is talked into coming in just to finish out his own legacy but not as a permanent solution, only a temporary fit. Someone like Dusty Baker.

Someone like Marvin Lewis.

The only thing wrong with the timing is that it wasn't sooner.

chuck · #16 10-05-2020, 07:39 PM

As much as I think BOB is a bad head coach and an even worse GM, I have boundless respect for him as a father to a child with some very, very seriously fked up health issues. I can’t imagine what it’s like to have that weight on you all the time. I mean, the child is surely a source of tremendous love, but he requires constant care and has very limited mobility and it must be very, very difficult as a parent.

For Jack’s sake I’m glad BOB’s been able to make off with a great deal of McNeck money.

chuck · #17 10-05-2020, 07:40 PM

What’s Easterby’s actual, day to day role, by the way?

Keith · #18 10-06-2020, 02:41 PM

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As much as I think BOB is a bad head coach and an even worse GM, I have boundless respect for him as a father to a child with some very, very seriously fked up health issues. I can’t imagine what it’s like to have that weight on you all the time. I mean, the child is surely a source of tremendous love, but he requires constant care and has very limited mobility and it must be very, very difficult as a parent.

For Jack’s sake I’m glad BOB’s been able to make off with a great deal of McNeck money.

I hope Bill takes a lot of time off to help care for Jack. He can certainly afford to at least. And da real MVP here is his wife.

I initially thought Bill's best move would be to return to college football as a head coach, but I doubt that happens. Those with a second chance at being an NFL head coach have had a decent track record of success in spots, and to a lot of woeful franchises, the consecutive playoff appearances and division titles to O'Brien's resume probably look quite appealing.